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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Seems like they're doing pretty good on the smokers that buy cigarettes and tobacco products.

    Question; if everybody in America quit smoking how much tax revenue would be lost and how would it be replaced?
    They'd start taxing alcohol more. In the area that I live in alcohol has had its tax raised 1 time in the last 20 years. Of course after they end up taxing alcohol to death like they are tobacco then they will be in trouble. But that isn't for many years into the future yet...and it's impossible for them to think that far ahead.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In my experience, a far smaller number than of cigarette butts...
    With the type of cigarettes that I smoke how much do you want to bet that my cigarettes will decompose a hell of a lot quicker than those plastic products?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With the type of cigarettes that I smoke how much do you want to bet that my cigarettes will decompose a hell of a lot quicker than those plastic products?
    It is all garbage, and if you are smoking in the presence of non-smokers, you are also adding cancer-causing air pollution to the mix...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It is all garbage, and if you are smoking in the presence of non-smokers, you are also adding cancer-causing air pollution to the mix...
    Think you should read this...

    British Medical Journal - Environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality in a prospective study of Californians, 1960-98
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What about gum wrappers and water bottles? You get fined for littering. This implies there is a ban on their improper disposal. What are we discussing?
    I might ask you the same.
    In post 407 it was you that bought up litter on a no smoking ban thread.
    I try to answer all threads addressed to me with the subject they discuss.
    If I recall correctly yours was "Your individual freedom to litter on public property".
    Your words are the not?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In my experience, a far smaller number than of cigarette butts...
    Although I'm not a scientist nor an intellectual, but I would guess that eventualy a cigarette butt would eventualt deteriate, and dissolve.
    Can the same be said of plastic containers?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    They'd start taxing alcohol more. In the area that I live in alcohol has had its tax raised 1 time in the last 20 years. Of course after they end up taxing alcohol to death like they are tobacco then they will be in trouble. But that isn't for many years into the future yet...and it's impossible for them to think that far ahead.
    I don't know about being that far into the future.

    Care to calculate how much state and federal tax has been lost so far because of what I like to call "the great smoking scare".

    In the 50's cigarettes were called cofin nails, some time in the early 60's they were called grave tickets that didn't catch on.

    Some paper pusher in the AMA got an idea that cigarettes were bad for you.
    And presto, the American people were told what they already knew, just with a bit more hype.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It is all garbage, and if you are smoking in the presence of non-smokers, you are also adding cancer-causing air pollution to the mix...
    Uh excuse me, but I've heard this second hand smoke crap before.
    I offer you the same challenge I have offered others.
    Produce a death certificate that says cause of death second hand smoke.
    The AMA. had no such certificate on file..
    Perhaps you have.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Although I'm not a scientist nor an intellectual, but I would guess that eventualy a cigarette butt would eventualt deteriate, and dissolve.
    Can the same be said of plastic containers?
    Dog feces will deteriorate faster than cigarette butts too but I don't care to sit on a beach filled with it.

    One can debate about the health risks of smoking, 2nd hand smoking, and someone'a uncle who lived to 96 smoking Marlboro but for me I simply don't care.

    I just hate the smell of cig smoke. And someone will bring up about people wearing perfume and yes that is annoying but perfume does not permeate the size of an area as a cig will.

    For decades the non-smokers had to deal with smokers everywhere. Now the table has turned. Deal with it.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Dog feces will deteriorate faster than cigarette butts too but I don't care to sit on a beach filled with it.

    One can debate about the health risks of smoking, 2nd hand smoking, and someone'a uncle who lived to 96 smoking Marlboro but for me I simply don't care.

    I just hate the smell of cig smoke. And someone will bring up about people wearing perfume and yes that is annoying but perfume does not permeate the size of an area as a cig will.

    For decades the non-smokers had to deal with smokers everywhere. Now the table has turned. Deal with it.
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