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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    How's my lungs?
    That's a bit personal isn't it?
    No matter I go for walks everyday, and my lungs still work.
    For the record how much you weigh, and how is your heart?

    As far as shortened my lifespan who wants to spend their last years in a nurseing home or popping 20 pills a day or wearing depends, and uesing Viagra. on a diet of bland foods,

    That may be how you want to go out but that lifestyle is not for me.
    The key word is individualism.
    Just because you want to live to 120, don't mean everybody else does.
    Most people want to live past 60 and enjoy their retirement and not be stuck in a nursing home hooked to an oxygen tank.

    I am 6'1" and weigh 185. My heart is in good shape and I can run for an hour.
    Had I not quit smoking 25 years ago I could not say that.

    The most important thing in ones life is your health. You can have everything else in the world, but if you don't have your health it doesn't mean ****.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Again, I have no problem with people choosing to do it but I don't think that warrants exposing others on a whim. If I have a picnic all setup with my family, why should I have to move because someone decided to light up a few feet away from me?
    Because we live in a free society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    THEY should move. I'm not packing up all my **** because of one inconsiderate asshole. The incentive should be theirs, not mine.
    Don't pact up all your **** then. But in essence, you're behaving the exact same way that you're arguing against. You're being a jerk demanding that everyone cow tow to your demands in public. You don't want X, thus no one should be allowed to do X around you. Sorry, but in a free society lots of people are going to do things that you don't like; you have to learn to live with it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    You can have everything else in the world, but if you don't have your health it doesn't mean ****.
    I'd say you can have everything else in the world, but if you don't have your freedom it doesn't mean ****. I'd rather die young and free than old and enslaved.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'd say you can have everything else in the world, but if you don't have your freedom it doesn't mean ****. I'd rather die young and free than old and enslaved.
    Freedom? Being enslaved to nicotine is freedom?
    If you have freedom but not your health then freedom isn't all that great.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Freedom? Being enslaved to nicotine is freedom?
    If you have freedom but not your health then freedom isn't all that great.
    I smoke and I scuba, play paintball and everything else I want to do. I retired at 45.

    So again you are speculating on something that has thousands of contributing factors.

    Am I in a higher risk group for certain things? Yes. Does this mean you have no risk? No.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I smoke and I scuba, play paintball and everything else I want to do. I retired at 45.

    So again you are speculating on something that has thousands of contributing factors.

    Am I in a higher risk group for certain things? Yes. Does this mean you have no risk? No.
    Thats great you retired early, but don't you want to enjoy it as long as possible? What good is retiring early and then dying soon after or sufferring with emphezima or other smoking related illness the rest of your life? I had a smoking co-worker that retired at 50 to pursue his dream as a pro bass angler. A year later he was diagnosed with lung cancer. After a long illness he died a year later. My dad was going to retire at 62. He died at 60 from smoking.
    I know you aren't going to quit smoking and no one will ever convince you it is the smart thing to do, so there really is no point to go on. I have helped to convince others to quit and it made us all happy when they did.
    Have a nice life.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Thats great you retired early, but don't you want to enjoy it as long as possible?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    What good is retiring early and then dying soon after or sufferring with emphezima or other smoking related illness the rest of your life?
    I am fine. I could be dead in my car tomorrow.

    So you are saying if I don't quite those things will happen? You can't, and yet you try and use fear to motivate grown adults who can make decisions for themselves. I guess you are much smarter and know what is best for all of us? Hehehehe!

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    I had a smoking co-worker that retired at 50 to pursue his dream as a pro bass angler. A year later he was diagnosed with lung cancer. After a long illness he died a year later. My dad was going to retire at 62. He died at 60 from smoking.
    Good for them. Their suffering in this life is over and they begin a new journey. I hope they had full lives and lived it to the fullest.

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    I know you aren't going to quit smoking and no one will ever convince you it is the smart thing to do, so there really is no point to go on.
    The "smart" thing would be for you to realize your argument is based on maybes.

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    I have helped to convince others to quit and it made us all happy when they did. Have a nice life.
    Oh I am! Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square

    Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
    If you believe smoking can cause cancer and are against the Gov ban, you're either playing games or an anti authority extremist.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Freedom? Being enslaved to nicotine is freedom?
    If you have freedom but not your health then freedom isn't all that great.
    Well that's your opinion. As I said, I'd rather die young and free than old and enslaved.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post

    The "smart" thing would be for you to realize your argument is based on maybes.

    My argument is based on risk and probablities. Just like playing russian roulette. The likelyhood of being shot in the head drops exponentially if one choses not to play.
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