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Thread: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And you see no problem with this? So you'll be able to go to a park, just don't bring any food, drink, diapers, reading material or your dog. Sounds fun.
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    Maybe people should start cleaning up after themselves.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Maybe people should start cleaning up after themselves.
    They should, but not all will. Because not all will, does that mean everyone gets punished? That sort of thing may have flown when one was a kid, but as adults we are the ones who control government; not the other way around. If we're going to accept some litering so that we can still enjoy some freedoms, then that's how it's gonna be. Maybe we'll pay to make sure that there is someone to clean it up.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square

    Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
    mixed feelings. it's disgusting to see cigarette butts all over the beach and the streets and parks. the pigs are the ones who brought this ban on.

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    Hope to God that council and the mayor gets thier asses sued off.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    . Maybe we'll pay to make sure that there is someone to clean it up.
    More taxes?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    mixed feelings. it's disgusting to see cigarette butts all over the beach and the streets and parks. the pigs are the ones who brought this ban on.
    I agree..........


    But dozens of municipalities across the nation have had enough. Weary of the butts’ unsightliness and the costs of sweeping them up, cities have passed bans on smoking on beaches and playgrounds. In San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsom said last week that he would go a step further, seeking a 33-cents-a-pack tax to cover the $11 million that the city spends annually to remove cigarette litter.

    Nationally, cigarette butts account for one-quarter or more of the items tossed onto streets and other roadways, San Francisco and other cities report.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    More taxes?
    OMG....you mean that if we want nice stuff, we have to pay for it! Perish the thought!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OMG....you mean that if we want nice stuff, we have to pay for it! Perish the thought!
    No we are paying to clean up someone elses mess. It was nice stuff before they soiled it.

    Smokers have no one to blame but themselves.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    No we are paying to clean up someone elses mess. It was nice stuff before they soiled it.

    Smokers have no one to blame but themselves.
    Ok, so by banning smoking, does that mean NY city will need fewer city employees? There's someone maintaining the parks now right, so they should be able to get rid of one of those people to save the city money. Think that'll happen?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    It's either a complete ban or putting a fines system in place that would be impossible to enforce. Public parks and beaches are not private property. Their upkeep is the responsibility of the state. I have no problem with this at all. I'm against smoking bans on private property, though, like bars, restaurants etc...
    I wondered about this, we had a heated discussion in the Europe forum when Spain introduced the ban in bars and restaurants.

    I find it odd that I disagree a ban in public space where wind will take away the smoke and I agree a ban in enclosed spaces like bars and restaurants where non smokers have had to endure other people's smoke and you are the opposite on both. I know the argument that people can just go to another bar - so why can't a non smoker simply walk a little upwind or further away in public? Why support a ban in open air space?

    I don't get it..

    Personally, I feel a ban in public open spaces is just going too far.

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