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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I should have been clearer.

    I smoke, I am also an adult. If I own my own person the government should have little say into what I can or can't put into my own body.

    So some rude smokers are making it hard on the rest of us.

    Sorry for the confusion.... and second hand smoke, lol.
    You were perfectly clear.

    The government isn't telling you that *you can't be a tobacco addict* - they're just telling you "you can't smoke here."
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square

    Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
    Totalitarian edicts are always a "bad" thing, especially in a nation that was founded upon the principles of individual freedoms in the pursuit of happiness. The "collective" good seems like an idea that I have heard many times in the past....right before the STATE began dotting the landscape with shallow unmarked graves in the millions while supposedly in the pursuit of SOCIAL JUSTICE.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You were perfectly clear.

    The government isn't telling you that *you can't be a tobacco addict* - they're just telling you "you can't smoke here."
    Yep it sucks either way, hehehe.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Please, if it were up to you, people would be taking heroin breaks throughout the day. Oh but smoking cigarettes, now that would be banned.

    And I see you have a short term memory and logic issue. Wonder why.
    Now you're just being an inflammatory troll. Just because I think that drugs have creative uses does not mean that I myself partake, and I don't. You are really trying to push the idea that I'm a drug user as part of your agenda to discredit my character, but it won't work because your entire premise is based on an assumption.

    Now, are you going to stop personally attacking me and get back to the actual debate, or do I have to report you to the mods?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why can't they just make it legal for you to possess and not partake? Any reason you have why that is unreasonable to exist?
    Every time I breath second hand smoke, I am partaking whether I like it or not. Just because you have a right to poison your body does not mean you get to do it where you want or expose others. Sorry that's so hard for you to grasp.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Now you're just being an inflammatory troll. Just because I think that drugs have creative uses does not mean that I myself partake, and I don't. You are really trying to push the idea that I'm a drug user as part of your agenda to discredit my character, but it won't work because your entire premise is based on an assumption.

    Now, are you going to stop personally attacking me and get back to the actual debate, or do I have to report you to the mods?
    I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your position, and yes, some of it is tongue in cheek innuendo. As far as reporting me, ~ do it or don't. Just don't think that threats of that nature do anything to get me to toe whatever line you think I should.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Every time I breath second hand smoke, I am partaking whether I like it or not. Just because you have a right to poison your body does not mean you get to do it where you want or expose others. Sorry that's so hard for you to grasp.
    You know I'm not a smoker and I don't much like second hand smoke, but unlike you I deal with it without thinking I have some authority over the people that smoke. Ever hear of moving away from smokers? It works, and all you have to do is use your feet.

    Here is what you do when you are in a building that allows smoking and there is a smoker

    exit or move away from the smoker until the smoke is no longer a problem.

    Here is what you do when you are outside and near a person that is smoking.

    Move a foot or two in any direction making sure to not be down wind of the smoker.

    If you can't be bothered to use these solutions, then please, feel free to grow a pair.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square

    Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
    I love it. Most annoying thing in the world when you are at the beach or at the park and someone plops down right next to you and starts smoking. We don't get much fresh air in this town to begin with. Allowing people to smoke in these areas seems inconsistent with the purpose of the areas to begin with.

    Sucks for smokers, though. But there are a lot of other things people aren't allowed to do in parks and on beaches. I don't see this as being all that different.
    Last edited by Cameron; 02-15-11 at 09:15 PM.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    One has the health prerogative, the other does not.



    Non-smokers are the majority. If you want to smoke, YOU go where WE tell you that you can smoke.



    Sorry, you don't have the right to blow toxic fumes in my face while I'm sitting on the same park bench as you. I support any law that takes away a smoker's right to smoke in proximity to me, even on the windiest day.



    And I would expect such asinine replies from someone who doesn't even understand the simple legal distinction between copyright infringement and theft. You must enjoy being wrong a lot.
    As long as there is no smoking ban placed? I have every much a right to that park bench as you. Again keep it moving if you do not wanna sit beside a smoker.

    As far as enjoy being wrong? I am all kinds of right on this issue and the issue of stealing.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Frankly, yes. Do you know how much fat people are costing the average tax payer? I'm already paying for the unpaid health care costs while these slobs go to McDonalds on a daily basis to shovel crap down their gullets, and then hospitals are obliged to provide urgent care when they finally have heart attacks from clogged arteries. Americans bitch about socialized health care but they're already paying for it. I am tired of the public subsidizing the habits of others. They need to be cut loose. If fat people don't want to take responsibility for being fat, then they can just go die somewhere. I don't really care.

    Same with smokers. I shouldn't have to inhale your crap because you have an addiction or move because you have an entitlement to smoke the crap. Take responsibility and do your drugs elsewhere. It's not that hard. Then when you get cancer, it shouldn't be my additional responsibility to pay for your stupid ass.



    lol... are you for real?
    I guess you are prefect and have no bad habits. Right? lol. So what is your vice? Since you do not smoke or eat junk food what brings you a bit of joy? Stealing others art, music and movies? haha.
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