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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Wow... no respect for the law from the smoking community... and people wonder why I look at smokers and immediately deduct 10 IQ points... I mean, really... if you want to smoke, fine... just do it in a place away from children and other non-smokers...
    And by the same token? If you do not wish to be around smokers? Keep it moving til you find a happy spot where there are no smokers.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    And by the same token? If you do not wish to be around smokers? Keep it moving til you find a happy spot where there are no smokers.
    Why should I have to move is my family and I have been enjoying out time at the beach all morning and are eating lunch when a fat, obese, disgusting, smoker decides to plop his fat butt right next to my children and smoke away... typical smokers...

    How about smoker's only zones at beaches so you can all share your smoke with one another and spare families from the torture of your disgusting habit???
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Why should I have to move is my family and I have been enjoying out time at the beach all morning and are eating lunch when a fat, obese, disgusting, smoker decides to plop his fat butt right next to my children and smoke away... typical smokers...

    How about smoker's only zones at beaches so you can all share your smoke with one another and spare families from the torture of your disgusting habit???
    LOL! Why does your example of a smoker have to be so very bad?

    ludahai sweetie, the examples you have given in this thread about typical smokers are not typical at all. You just have it in for smokers and are gonna try to paint us all in as bad of light as possible.

    We have already did the beach scene and I have no reason to go there with you again. I will repeat what I said: if the beach is crowded? Smoker has as much right to beach as you and kids and you may have to move if ugly, fat smoker cannot find anywhere else on said beach to park his smoking butt.

    Honestly did someone you know die of lung cancer or something? Why must you hate human smokers as you do? The majority of smokers I know are very courteous and go out of there way to make sure they do not bother anybody. They also make sure not to litter their ciggy butts anywhere. Either you have bad luck with rude smokers or you are just looking to hate smokers for personal reasons.

    BTW, I would totally support that smokers zone thing.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    LOL! Why does your example of a smoker have to be so very bad?
    Because, while this does not apply to every smoker, I generally DO look down on smokers. They engage in a disgusting habit that is known to harm ones health. Furthermore, many (not all, mind you) simply do not have regard for non-smokers.

    ludahai sweetie, the examples you have given in this thread about typical smokers are not typical at all. You just have it in for smokers and are gonna try to paint us all in as bad of light as possible.
    I really do not like smokers. I have had some bad experience with smokers. I am very sensitive to cancer stick smoke, that is true. But the times I see smokers eating around food (while preparing it), in restaurants with children around, and just simply not acknolwdging that there are non-smokers and we simply do not want to smell your emmissions...

    We have already did the beach scene and I have no reason to go there with you again. I will repeat what I said: if the beach is crowded? Smoker has as much right to beach as you and kids and you may have to move if ugly, fat smoker cannot find anywhere else on said beach to park his smoking butt.
    Actually, no, that is not true. In many jurisdictions, smokers do NOT have the right to go on that beach. New York is not the trendsetter here, but rather is following a growing trend.

    Honestly did someone you know die of lung cancer or something? Why must you hate human smokers as you do? The majority of smokers I know are very courteous and go out of there way to make sure they do not bother anybody. They also make sure not to litter their ciggy butts anywhere. Either you have bad luck with rude smokers or you are just looking to hate smokers for personal reasons.
    Who DOESN'T know someone who has died from this horrible weed. I also suferred from childhood asthma, as do many children in the homes of smokers do to having to deal with a father who was a heavy smoker. Yes, forcing children to inhale that garbage is CHILD ABUSE. So, yes, I do have a history of this and no I am not going to apologize for my anti-smoking militancy. Smokers who actually acknowlegde that we don't want to smell their emissions (and I know a few who do, though I can't really call them friends as I have VERY few friends who even smoke in the first place), that is one thing. However, a distressingly large number do not.

    BTW, I would totally support that smokers zone thing.
    Let's focus on this point of agreement. BTW, this was proposed to me by one of my few friends who DOES smoke and understands the points of non-smokers...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    ludahai, I think we pretty much beat this subeject to death but came upon a happy place: smokers zone for beaches and other places.

    Having said that? I do not consider smoking inside your own home around children as child abuse. If your parent is beating the crap out of you with a belt? That is child abuse. If parent is smoking in a room off from everything else? Not child abuse to me. Sorry.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    I support the smoking ban. There is nothing good about cigarettes, not one thing. If you want to smoke, smoke in a private establishment, not in a park where your toxic smoke and cigarette butts litter our parks. Can't count the number of times I've shared a park bench with someone who suddenly lit up and their disgusting and toxic smoke blew in my face.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I support the smoking ban. There is nothing good about cigarettes, not one thing. If you want to smoke, smoke in a private establishment, not in a park where your toxic smoke and cigarette butts litter our parks. Can't count the number of times I've shared a park bench with someone who suddenly lit up and their disgusting and toxic smoke blew in my face.
    From a smokers point? There are plenty of good things about cigs.

    Non-smokers do not own the world and you can always move to another bench.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    From a smokers point? There are plenty of good things about cigs.

    Non-smokers do not own the world and you can always move to another bench.
    No thanks. The smoker can move... to their home, or the street outside the park, or to another planet, or FOAD for all I care. No more whining about smokers rights. Just go away with your disgusting crap.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    No thanks. The smoker can move... to their home, or the street outside the park, or to another planet, or FOAD for all I care. No more whining about smokers rights. Just go away with your disgusting crap.
    What makes non-smokers rights more valid than smokers?

    How about you non-smokers just go away? Why does it have to be the smokers that have to go away?

    The only disgusting crap about this is that some non-smokers feel as if they are more worthy of rights than smokers. Of course I would expect that from someone who has no problem with stealing from others. Your sense of entitlement is funny. lol
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    What makes non-smokers rights more valid than smokers?
    One has the health prerogative, the other does not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    How about you non-smokers just go away? Why does it have to be the smokers that have to go away?
    Non-smokers are the majority. If you want to smoke, YOU go where WE tell you that you can smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    The only disgusting crap about this is that some non-smokers feel as if they are more worthy of rights than smokers.
    Sorry, you don't have the right to blow toxic fumes in my face while I'm sitting on the same park bench as you. I support any law that takes away a smoker's right to smoke in proximity to me, even on the windiest day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Of course I would expect that from someone who has no problem with stealing from others. Your sense of entitlement is funny. lol
    And I would expect such asinine replies from someone who doesn't even understand the simple legal distinction between copyright infringement and theft. You must enjoy being wrong a lot.

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