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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Well as long as it is a public beach and there are no laws that prohibit public smoking? Then yep: got every right to sit next to you and your kiddos. Like I said before I try my best to find a spot so I do not bother anybody but if that happened to be a crowded beach that day? Well tough cookies for you and your kids as I have as much right to enjoy that beach as you and you are free to move away from me. I am NOT stopping ya.

    I also feel you should be able to drink intoxicating beverages on a beach as long as they are in a cup and no open beer cans. I guess maybe the smokers and/or drinkers need to just go to only adult beach but even some of those have outlawd both so that sucks.

    Why don;t the smoking nazis just understand that they can move on along til they find an area where there is no smokers.
    Except that in this case, the City of New York has passed an ordinance PROHIBITING smoking on their beaches... and there are already others... so, NO, in those cases you DO NOT have a right to smoke on those beaches... and I support prohibiting them on ALL public beaches!!!

    Smokers DO NOT have the right to smoke anywhere they want... the PRIVILEGE can be taken away
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that in this case, the City of New York has passed an ordinance PROHIBITING smoking on their beaches... and there are already others... so, NO, in those cases you DO NOT have a right to smoke on those beaches... and I support prohibiting them on ALL public beaches!!!

    Smokers DO NOT have the right to smoke anywhere they want... the PRIVILEGE can be taken away
    The bolded part is sadly true.

    The second part of your post is true but keep in mind if you allow them to keep stripping away the folks rights you may end up with none.

    Of course you support them taking away smokers rights as you have no compassion nor do you care for smokers. You are very hateful when it comes to smokers.

    The good part? Based on this poll and others? Majority of people do think smokers should still have some rights left. Thank goodness the masses do not think like you and other smoking nazis
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    The bolded part is sadly true.

    The second part of your post is true but keep in mind if you allow them to keep stripping away the folks rights you may end up with none.

    Of course you support them taking away smokers rights as you have no compassion nor do you care for smokers. You are very hateful when it comes to smokers.

    The good part? Based on this poll and others? Majority of people do think smokers should still have some rights left. Thank goodness the masses do not think like you and other smoking nazis
    Not "sadly" from my point of view. It is nice to know that there are some places I can take my family to the beach and not have to worry about addicts and their cancer sticks.

    I am doing nothing to take away your "rights". You have no right to smoke and poison the air of those around you. Local governments DO have the right to take that PRIVILEGE away from you. Unfortunately, too many smokers have proven to be absolutely incapable of understanding that non-smokers around them do not want to be subjected to their poisonous emmissions.

    Also, I would say that the results of this poll are certainly not indicative of the majority of people around the United States and other countries. I wouldn't take much stock in a DP poll, to be perfectly honest...

    I DO have compassion for smokers. I feel bad that they are addicted to a poisonous weed and hope that they are all able to give it up as soon as possible, both for their own good and for the good of those around them... especially if they have children...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Now, Boston is considering a similar ban.

    Two Boston city councilors are proposing to ban smoking in public parks and beaches, carrying the decadeslong campaign to reduce tobacco use to some of the last remaining public spaces where lighting up is still allowed.

    Hundreds of communities nationwide, including Braintree, have already adopted similar prohibitions.
    Braintree, MA already does it, as do something like 500 some-odd communities around the country. NY's prohibition is only part of an already growing trend, not a trendsetter...

    Last week, New York became the latest big city to eliminate smoking in parks, beaches, and even Times Square. About 500 cities Los Angeles and San Francisco among them bar smoking in parks, declaring it a public nuisance and health threat akin to the consumption of alcohol.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Not "sadly" from my point of view. It is nice to know that there are some places I can take my family to the beach and not have to worry about addicts and their cancer sticks.

    I am doing nothing to take away your "rights". You have no right to smoke and poison the air of those around you. Local governments DO have the right to take that PRIVILEGE away from you. Unfortunately, too many smokers have proven to be absolutely incapable of understanding that non-smokers around them do not want to be subjected to their poisonous emmissions.

    Also, I would say that the results of this poll are certainly not indicative of the majority of people around the United States and other countries. I wouldn't take much stock in a DP poll, to be perfectly honest...

    I DO have compassion for smokers. I feel bad that they are addicted to a poisonous weed and hope that they are all able to give it up as soon as possible, both for their own good and for the good of those around them... especially if they have children...
    The tide has turned on smokers. There is the frantic last minute attempt to justify their need to infringe on everyone's rights.

    Thre is the automatic attempt to comparing the banning of cigs to banning people from eating high fat content hamburgers. But eating a hamburger isn't going to effect people 20 feet away.

    Then there is the traditional attempt to claim we will then lose all our rights. Which is the last straws the addict attempts to grasp. The so call Sky is Falling angle. They banned heroin years ago and I still seem to have most of my rights of freedom.


    The point is that there isn't anything beneficial about smoking cigarettes. Why would anyone of normal intellingence spend time trying to defend something that can cause such a host of medical problems from lung cancer down to decreasing the size of one's erection.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    The bolded part is sadly true.

    The second part of your post is true but keep in mind if you allow them to keep stripping away the folks rights you may end up with none.

    Of course you support them taking away smokers rights as you have no compassion nor do you care for smokers. You are very hateful when it comes to smokers.

    The good part? Based on this poll and others? Majority of people do think smokers should still have some rights left. Thank goodness the masses do not think like you and other smoking nazis
    When the smoker litters with his filthy habit, when he damages property with his smoke, when he blows smoke in someone's face, then he should lose the right to smoke.
    This applies to all rights.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    The tide has turned on smokers. There is the frantic last minute attempt to justify their need to infringe on everyone's rights.

    Thre is the automatic attempt to comparing the banning of cigs to banning people from eating high fat content hamburgers. But eating a hamburger isn't going to effect people 20 feet away.

    Then there is the traditional attempt to claim we will then lose all our rights. Which is the last straws the addict attempts to grasp. The so call Sky is Falling angle. They banned heroin years ago and I still seem to have most of my rights of freedom.


    The point is that there isn't anything beneficial about smoking cigarettes. Why would anyone of normal intellingence spend time trying to defend something that can cause such a host of medical problems from lung cancer down to decreasing the size of one's erection.
    The key words are "normal intelligence".
    I would add "respect for others".

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Well I think I have said all I needed to say as the smoking nazis will never support the rights of people that include smokers. I understand I will never change their mind and that is fine by me.

    But I will keep it in mind when they come crying about their rights being stripped away when it does finally happen and it will as some seem to be on a Police Nation kind of kick that will not end til the great peeps of our country have no rights. They will only be happy when the day comes that they (gov) can be all up in everybodys biz, in their homes, in their backyard telling you what you can smoke, eat, drink, wear, listen to, watch on the tv, what you can or cannot drive, what dogs you can or cannot own, what kind of things you can grow on your land and who knows what else. The madness is here to stay and some that hating on smokers will not be happy when they take some of those above away. Be careful what ya wish for.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    *raises nicotine-stained middle finger* I will continue to break this law.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Illumination View Post
    *raises nicotine-stained middle finger* I will continue to break this law.
    Wow... no respect for the law from the smoking community... and people wonder why I look at smokers and immediately deduct 10 IQ points... I mean, really... if you want to smoke, fine... just do it in a place away from children and other non-smokers...
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