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Thread: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So....everyone has to live just like you then?
    Well, it would most certainly be healthier. Heck, if you want to smoke cancer sticks, go right ahead. Just understand that the majority of people DON'T and that you don't have the right to poison our air with your poison...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't like to smell people smoking either, I think it's a horrible smell. But if a bar allows it, I can not go to it. If it's outside, I can walk by quickly. It's not like I can't enjoy outside because there are smokers about. People need to grow up and begin to behave like adults before its too late. If we keep running to government every time one of our fragile senses are offended, we're not going to be allowed to do anything in this country.
    But the thread is about a law applicable to parks and beaches, locations where it is common for people to spend extended periods of time. Not the same as walking through a night market or a sidewalk...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    And not one person has railed about those horrible stench of beach bonfires, chimney smoke, woodstoves and backyard bbqs... and if y'all were really sensitive to smoke, like I am, you'd know that there is not one iota of difference between them when encountered in an outdoor environment. It all smells smokey. Only most people ignore the smell from bbq's, chimneys and bonfires. Why? Because most people like to use these things, and they don't want things that like to use to be banned. Only the things they don't like to use that smell the same as the things they like to use should be banned. And that's based upon double standards, hatred and... dare I say it?... bigotry.
    Chimneys and woodstoves are regulated. The air is monitored and often in winter they have to ban their use until the air clears . At least that is the way it is up in the Northwest.

    And no cigarrette smoke does not smell like bbq smoke. If your bbq smoke smells like a carton of Marlboro's then I hate to think what that hamburger taste like.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    if I am on the beach with my family, we have been there all morning, enjoying a picnic lunch, why should WE have to move because an insensitive smoker who is absolutely not cognizant of the fact that there are non-smokers around them... This attitude makes me more and more supportive of making cigarette smoking illegal...
    Because it is your problem. Not the smokers. Should smokers have to be mind readers and figure out how long your non smoking ass has been down to the beach? I think not.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Because it is your problem. Not the smokers. Should smokers have to be mind readers and figure out how long your non smoking ass has been down to the beach? I think not.
    Typical smoker's attitude. To the hell with the rest of the people here I need my fix for my nerves.

    Yes, with this type of attitude and the continual littering of the grounds it is a wonder that more people don't try to accomodate you......

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Because it is your problem. Not the smokers. Should smokers have to be mind readers and figure out how long your non smoking ass has been down to the beach? I think not.
    Nope, it is the smokers' problem.... he is violating my space with his poison... and since smokers don't seem to be cognizant of that fact, local and state governments (NOT FEDERAL) have to step in to protect the legitimate rights of non-smokers...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Nope, it is the smokers' problem.... he is violating my space with his poison... and since smokers don't seem to be cognizant of that fact, local and state governments (NOT FEDERAL) have to step in to protect the legitimate rights of non-smokers...
    How is it invading your space if it is a Public Beach? Do you feel that because you do not smoke that you have more of a right to that beach than a smoker?

    I will say that I am a nice smoker that goes out of their way to get away from the general public while in public parks, beach, etc. but sometimes if it is crowded? That can be very hard to do and feel as if I have as much right to be there as you do.

    I also am one that does not toss cig butts on grounds and always ask before I light up when around folks who may not smoke.

    But that space you talking about? Is not really your space and is much mine as yours!

    BTW, some parents are invading my space with their bratty kids. How does that sound to you?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Typical smoker's attitude. To the hell with the rest of the people here I need my fix for my nerves.

    Yes, with this type of attitude and the continual littering of the grounds it is a wonder that more people don't try to accomodate you......
    I am not the one in this thread that thinks I own public spaces. That would be the typical non-smoking nazis
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    How is it invading your space if it is a Public Beach? Do you feel that because you do not smoke that you have more of a right to that beach than a smoker?

    I will say that I am a nice smoker that goes out of their way to get away from the general public while in public parks, beach, etc. but sometimes if it is crowded? That can be very hard to do and feel as if I have as much right to be there as you do.

    I also am one that does not toss cig butts on grounds and always ask before I light up when around folks who may not smoke.

    But that space you talking about? Is not really your space and is much mine as yours!

    BTW, some parents are invading my space with their bratty kids. How does that sound to you?
    You have the right to use the public space, no argument there. You do NOT have the right to pollute the air of others using that public space. So... you wonder why government's are stepping in because cancer stick users can't regulate themselves...

    The attitude of many smokers and their apologists on this thread is the reason there has been such a backlash. Learn to be reasonable and accomodate or the backlash will continue...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I am not the one in this thread that thinks I own public spaces. That would be the typical non-smoking nazis
    Opps.. sure sign that you have lost the argument...
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