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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It's hard to breath with all that smoke.

    Do smokers realize that when they smoke a cigarette, then get in a non-smokers' car, there's a faint smoke smell even after they get out? Thanks for that.
    Well there is a pretty easy solution to this: do not let smokers around you or inside your car if it bothers you soo much
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It's hard to breath with all that smoke.

    Do smokers realize that when they smoke a cigarette, then get in a non-smokers' car, there's a faint smoke smell even after they get out? Thanks for that.
    I doubt non-smokers are inundated by clouds of smoke outdoors. Perhaps they get a whiff if they walk past a smoker, but hey. They're people too. They have rights.

    I cannot tolerate smoke at all anymore (for the reasons I detailed earlier in this thread; my lungs are shot), so cigarette smoke, smoke from woodstoves or chimneys or beach bonfires, all make my lungs seize up. So does perfume, after-shave, most cleaning products, and scented candles. Now does that give me the right to lobby my town to ban woodstoves, chimneys, bbq's, beach bonfires, perfume, after-shave, most cleaning products and scented candles? Of course not. I simply have to avoid these things.

    The problem I have with the rabid anti-cigarette crowd is that it's more about hatred than any legitimate distress. Annoyance? Indoors, of course. But outdoors? No. How do I know that? Because we're talking about smoking outside. Outside. And not one person has railed about those horrible stench of beach bonfires, chimney smoke, woodstoves and backyard bbqs... and if y'all were really sensitive to smoke, like I am, you'd know that there is not one iota of difference between them when encountered in an outdoor environment. It all smells smokey. Only most people ignore the smell from bbq's, chimneys and bonfires. Why? Because most people like to use these things, and they don't want things that like to use to be banned. Only the things they don't like to use that smell the same as the things they like to use should be banned. And that's based upon double standards, hatred and... dare I say it?... bigotry.

    It's simple, really.

    That said, if any of you smoke, please consider trying to quit as soon as possible. I believe you have the right to make that choice yourself... but remember, when we make a poor choice, there will be consequences. Life is better without cigarettes. Also, longer.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my great uncle had a heart condition. he was 93. they sent him home to die. after 6 months, hospice left. said he had lived too long and that they couldn't stay any longer. he lived for another couple of years after that.
    Can't imagine anyone this old not needing live-in care. Most people this age are in nursing homes that are very expensive.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Can't speak for others, but I haven't taken sick leave in years and have only twice had to make a doctor's visit in the last three years (non-flu shot related)... I know this isn't the norm, but it is largely through my personal lifestyle choices. I shouldn't be penalized by those who don't make similar, healthy lifestyle choices...
    So....everyone has to live just like you then?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So....everyone has to live just like you then?
    I have probably lived the opposite. I smoked a pack a day for nearly 30 years. was never sick a day in my life (other than reaction to the yearly mandatory flu shot). I quit smoking and the first year I had bronchitis 3-4 times.

    grandfather was the same way. smoked a couple packs of camel non-filters a day for 70+ years and was never sick. dropped dead of a heart attack while working in his garden, he was ~93

    I think genetics has a lot to do with how severely smoking will affect you.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    For the math impaired thats $64,800,000,000 X 82% = $53,136,000,000. Then people should also add in the extra amount that smokers pay in insurance premiums. Also add in the other tobacco products that people use when smoking that isn't included in that 15 billion packs of cigs a year. Yeah...the whole crap about smokers not paying enough to cover medical expenses is bullcrap. They pay in enough to pay for the medical expenses AND to clean up the butts that idiots do throw on the ground.
    That was exactly as I was talking about earlier. Smokers pay already. Now we've taken to smokers as one of the few groups that we can go after (along with drunk drivers, and pedophiles) without having to worry about any moral concern or requiring any form of logic. But we can keep tacking on, after all smokers aren't like real people. So more and more and more. We make them spend more, we restrict where they can go, going so far as to infringe upon private property rights in order to force the way. Time and time again, it whinny pansy pussy (the type of folk taking out certain sectors of our society) whine and cry that they can't go to this bar or this restaurant or that outside is apparently somehow not acceptable for people to smoke in. Blah blah blah.

    I don't like to smell people smoking either, I think it's a horrible smell. But if a bar allows it, I can not go to it. If it's outside, I can walk by quickly. It's not like I can't enjoy outside because there are smokers about. People need to grow up and begin to behave like adults before its too late. If we keep running to government every time one of our fragile senses are offended, we're not going to be allowed to do anything in this country.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Can you show that outdoor smoking infringes on your rights?
    If I have to inhale your poisonous emmissions from cancer sticks, my rights have been violated...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    It is the outdoors. You can move away. And you cannot show that any smoker that is smoking outside and in public infringes on your rights. What is so hard to understand about if you outside and someone lights up that you should move your ass? Seems simple to me. Unless you are just so anti-smoking that you cannot even think with a level head.
    if I am on the beach with my family, we have been there all morning, enjoying a picnic lunch, why should WE have to move because an insensitive smoker who is absolutely not cognizant of the fact that there are non-smokers around them... This attitude makes me more and more supportive of making cigarette smoking illegal...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Well there is a pretty easy solution to this: do not let smokers around you or inside your car if it bothers you soo much
    Believe me, I don't. VERY few of my friends smoke... and those few who do know exactly what I feel about it...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Can't imagine anyone this old not needing live-in care. Most people this age are in nursing homes that are very expensive.
    My grandpa is 91 and his health is pretty good. Also, last fall, I met a guy who is 95 years old and still runs 10km road races... So, while most are, I most certainly CAN imagine people at that age not needing live-in care...
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