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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Most people don't litter the grounds with perfume bottles....

    I could really care less if people can't run around with burning dried leaves wrapped in paper in their mouths. If they weren't so addicted maybe they could go an hour without a cig. I see it as just another sign of weakness with their addiction.
    Maybe you've never struggled to quit smoking, but no doubt you've struggled with other personal demons. It's easy to be judgmental. But you need a higher standard than "I don't like it" if you want to criminilize others' "weaknesses."

    Also, littering is already a fineable offense.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Maybe you've never struggled to quit smoking, but no doubt you've struggled with other personal demons. It's easy to be judgmental. But you need a higher standard than "I don't like it" if you want to criminilize others' "weaknesses."

    Also, littering is already a fineable offense.
    Ever seen anyone get a ticket for tossing a butt?
    It only takes a micro second to flick that butt but it takes minutes for someone to smoke a cig. Thus it would be far easier to catch the litterbug smoking one than flicking it.
    The same reason they don't sell chewing gum at Disneyland .

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Ever seen anyone get a ticket for tossing a butt?
    It only takes a micro second to flick that butt but it takes minutes for someone to smoke a cig. Thus it would be far easier to catch the litterbug smoking one than flicking it.
    The same reason they don't sell chewing gum at Disneyland .
    But the act of smoking doen't create litter ... throwing the cigarette butt on the ground does. You're saying people should be fined for having the opportunity to litter? For looking like they might litter? That's a ridiculous standard for law, don't you think? Should all people wearing ski masks be charged with bank robbery?

    As for Disneyland ... are they in the habit of fining or citing guests who bring their own gum?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    But the act of smoking doen't create litter ... throwing the cigarette butt on the ground does. You're saying people should be fined for having the opportunity to litter? For looking like they might litter? That's a ridiculous standard for law, don't you think? Should all people wearing ski masks be charged with bank robbery?

    As for Disneyland ... are they in the habit of fining or citing guests who bring their own gum?
    No, they don't fine guests for having gum. They also know that not everyone spits their gum out on the sidewalk and grass areas. But enough do to ruin it for everyone else. So they just outlaw sell of gum on the property to keep their grounds clean for everyone to enjoy.
    Just as not all smokers are slobs but enough are that the easiest way to prevent it is to make it illegal.

    Am certain this may not be the entire reason for making it illegal but it does benefit everyone else.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Bad teeth
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    To your death
    A lot of things besides smoking can lead to bad breath, bad teeth and death. Junk Food comes to mind.
    Last edited by Kali; 02-05-11 at 02:03 AM.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Smokers are filthy people who don't give a damn about others.
    I favor the ban.
    Also much higher taxes on cigarettes to defray the expense of the clean-up....
    As far as I am concerned, they can smoke in air-tight canisters and breath their own crap.
    I feel this is a very unfair post that demonizes smokers simply because they smoke. To say that smokers are filthy and do not give a damn about others is very unfair.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    When I see people smoking, I think they're most likely going to die way before me.

    When I see people smoking around their kids, I think about calling child services.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    When I see people smoking, I think they're most likely going to die way before me.

    When I see people smoking around their kids, I think about calling child services.
    Do you feel the same way when you see people drinking?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do you feel the same way when you see people drinking?
    Social drinkers may outlive me.

    People who drink while on vacation with their kids...depends on the situation, are they driving a speed boat?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I just get tired of paying for other people's destructive behavior and to clean up the messes they make. I have little sympathy for their cause.
    so you agree with me that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay with those who spawn like rabbits when they cannot afford to even raise one child properly?



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