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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Now subtract out the nominal direct heath care costs of non-smokers and the amount of lost productivity incurred each year out of non-smokers (less you're going to say that non-smokers never get sick or take vacation). Then calculate all the money made per year off of cigarettes to the State, the money saved through pension subsidization, and the additional money paid in insurance premiums from the average smoker. Then you'll have a more realistic number.
    Can't speak for others, but I haven't taken sick leave in years and have only twice had to make a doctor's visit in the last three years (non-flu shot related)... I know this isn't the norm, but it is largely through my personal lifestyle choices. I shouldn't be penalized by those who don't make similar, healthy lifestyle choices...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?

    I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.
    That's irrelevent, as littering is already covere by statute.

    It's clear to me this regulation goes too far. You can't really argue that it's a health issue in an outdoor setting like a park. This is just criminilizing otherwise legal behavior, and coupled with sin taxes, it's highly punitive with little justification.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I completely support it. Public parks and beaches are there for EVERYONE to enjoy and not for smokers to take the joy away from the MAJORITY of people who DO NOT SMOKE those cancer sticks. With the number of children also assumed to be enjoying such public spaces, that places MORE of an imperative on banning those cancer sticks from such public spaces. You want to poison yourself with that pernicious weed, fine with me. But your rights end at my nose and you have no right to subject me with your cancer sticks on public spaces. Good on New York on this one...
    I don't think we should enforce courtesy by law. Does the same standard apply to offensive perfume? Body odor?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Smokers are filthy people who don't give a damn about others.
    I favor the ban.
    Also much higher taxes on cigarettes to defray the expense of the clean-up....
    As far as I am concerned, they can smoke in air-tight canisters and breath their own crap.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I don't think we should enforce courtesy by law. Does the same standard apply to offensive perfume? Body odor?
    Good points..
    A little tolerance goes a long way... much better than my overly emotional rant....
    When we have "a better people" regular showers will be in and smelly perfumes will be out, along with the smoke..

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Smokers are filthy people who don't give a damn about others...
    Barack Obama is a filthy cigarette smoker.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Just another way to control us...BS plain and simple...

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Littering is already illegal. What are they going to ban next? Eating popsickles on public?
    Well, if you are eating popsicles ON the public, then aren't you violating their rights?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I don't think we should enforce courtesy by law. Does the same standard apply to offensive perfume? Body odor?
    Most people don't litter the grounds with perfume bottles....

    I could really care less if people can't run around with burning dried leaves wrapped in paper in their mouths. If they weren't so addicted maybe they could go an hour without a cig. I see it as just another sign of weakness with their addiction.
    Last edited by Crosscheck; 02-04-11 at 11:19 PM.

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