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Do Mexicans want their Land Back?

Do Mexicans want their Land Back?

  • Yes! Most all of Mexicans want to take back their land

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Yes! Some mexicans still want back the land they lost

    Votes: 7 25.9%

  • No! Very few mexicans want back the land they lost

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • No! None of them want the land they lost to the US back

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • OTHER / I dont know / Chimichanga

    Votes: 15 55.6%
  • Total voters
    27
Albert Di Salvo said:
I trust you Kali to be intellectually honest and not to engage in stereotypes of white men. Have you read this article by Victor Davis Hanson about the Two Californias:

Two Californias - Victor Davis Hanson - National Review Online

You didn't answer my question about whether you live with illegal aliens as I do. Do you?

And you didn't answer my question about whether you think it's fair to unskilled American workers to be forced to compete with illegal aliens. What do you think?
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Do I have illegal aliens inside my home as like roommates? Nope. But I live in N.C. so that should give you a damn clue that I know a little about the illegals issue. Do I think it is fair for any legal person living here in the U.S.A. to have to compete in the workforce with illegals? Hell no and it is an issue that pisses me off.

But keep in mind there are illegals from all over, not just Mexico and I get sick of the sterotyping and hate. There is no need to hate. Just a need to create a fix for it all. But this is not a thread about that? So sorry if we are highjacking.

BTW, ever heard that saying that If You Are Not Part Of The Solution You Are Part Of The Problem? Think about it. First you need to get rid of the illwill in your heart you seem to have towards Mexicans. Just some advice.

Oh and BTW. You wanna whine and cry about what is fair? Get back to me once you have lived as a slave and then I may take your cry baby antics more serious. K?
 
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Kali said:
Do I have illegal aliens inside my home as like roommates? Nope. But I live in N.C. so that should give you a damn clue that I know a little about the illegals issue. Do I think it is fair for any legal person living here in the U.S.A. to have to compete in the workforce with illegals? Hell no and it is an issue that pisses me off.

But keep in mind there are illegals from all over, not just Mexico and I get sick of the sterotyping and hate. There is no need to hate. Just a need to create a fix for it all. But this is not a thread about that? So sorry if we are highjacking.

BTW, ever heard that saying that If You Are Not Part Of The Solution You Are Part Of The Problem? Think about it. First you need to get rid of the illwill in your heart you seem to have towards Mexicans. Just some advice.

Oh and BTW. You wanna whine and cry about what is fair? Get back to me once you have lived as a slave and then I may take your cry baby antics more serious. K?
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What the hell are you talking about!?!? Youre not even making sense. And now SLAVES!?!? Are you drunk or something? You bring the topic of race and now slaves into a thread that has NOTHING to do with EITHER.

PLEASE stop baiting. And sober up. Then look up La Raza regarding racism if you are so hell bent on the topic.
 
Kali said:
Oh and BTW. You wanna whine and cry about what is fair? Get back to me once you have lived as a slave and then I may take your cry baby antics more serious. K?
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.... there are no more slaves in US and haven't been for a while
 
Kali said:
Do I have illegal aliens inside my home as like roommates? Nope. But I live in N.C. so that should give you a damn clue that I know a little about the illegals issue. Do I think it is fair for any legal person living here in the U.S.A. to have to compete in the workforce with illegals? Hell no and it is an issue that pisses me off.

But keep in mind there are illegals from all over, not just Mexico and I get sick of the sterotyping and hate. There is no need to hate. Just a need to create a fix for it all. But this is not a thread about that? So sorry if we are highjacking.

BTW, ever heard that saying that If You Are Not Part Of The Solution You Are Part Of The Problem? Think about it. First you need to get rid of the illwill in your heart you seem to have towards Mexicans. Just some advice.

Oh and BTW. You wanna whine and cry about what is fair? Get back to me once you have lived as a slave and then I may take your cry baby antics more serious. K?
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North Carolina is not like California. You have not had my experience.

I live in a city of fifty thousand people. That's small. My neighborhood is in large part surrounded by illegal aliens. That area is controlled by gangbangers from Jalisco, Guerrero and Michoacan. They are here working in the dope trade. Most violent crimes in my city are committed by illegal aliens. One of my neighbors is in jail for shooting two guys in the head over dope. They are so brazen they have shootouts between the Surenos, Nortenos and MS-13 (from El Salvador) in broad daylight. They patrol the streets. This is from today's newspaper: Man shot in suspected gang attack on Monterey/Santa Cruz county line - Santa Cruz Sentinel

Shootings and stabbings occur on a regular basis. There are no go areas for me. My neighbors and I have even had to face them off on our own street to stop their drug dealing. Is that fair?

Illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America constitute about eighty percent of the total number of illegals in this country. I suspect the percentage is much higher in California. All illegal aliens regardless of homeland should not be in America. It's a violation of the law.

I am part of the solution. It's just not a solution that you like.

I have never lived as a slave. And neither have you.

Btw, what did you think of Dr. Hanson's article?
 
I can't be bothered to look up links, but Aztlan and MEChA are two rather radical hispanic groups that believe the American southwest should be annexed by Mexico, through force. At the moment they're just talking the talk. The entire Mexican army couldn't occupy the American southwest, so I doubt a couple of hate-filled splinter groups can manage it.

But the answer to the poll is, yes, some Mexicans want "their" land back. Only it's ours now, so fat chance.

And there's nothing racist about asking the question, nor is there anything racist about answering the question honestly.
 
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Why don't you let them have CA. Should like a win-win to me.

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The US federal/national government has and continues to play a big part in creating the conditions in Mexico at least during the last 30 years (most likely longer). US involvement in Mexican economic policy (80s), the so-called ‘free’ trade agreements (90s), US financial institutions (with close ties to the federal government) all played huge parts in tanking the economy of Mexico and increasing migration of Mexicans.
So, maybe the Mexicans would like the US federal/national government to leave them alone.
 
Do mexican's as a whole? Doubtful. Are there segments of them? Definitely. There was a poster on this board for a bit of time actually who countinually posted and linked to the propoganda posters and sites revolving around it.
 
It doesn't matter what the Mexicans want; we have willfully bequeathed to them whatever they desire. A silent revolution and we signed the surrender papers in Spanish, while bilingualism became pernicious.
 
The Giant Noodle said:
After reading some responses on another forum regarding Arizona seceding from the Union (sorta) I stumbled upon one that was registered with a mexican IP addy that said:



So My question to you is do Mexicans STILL want back the areas we took from them?
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Yes. I've talked to quite a few Mexicans that have stated the same thing.

Edit: didn't vote as the options are from one extreme to the other. I'd put it between the two top options.
 
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The Giant Noodle said:
After reading some responses on another forum regarding Arizona seceding from the Union (sorta) I stumbled upon one that was registered with a mexican IP addy that said:



So My question to you is do Mexicans STILL want back the areas we took from them?
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I voted other. I think it's just an excuse pro-illegal immigration groups use to justify illegal immigration. The idea that you should be entitled to a piece of land just because your ancestors at one time or another lived there is idiotic.
 
The Giant Noodle said:
After reading some responses on another forum regarding Arizona seceding from the Union (sorta) I stumbled upon one that was registered with a mexican IP addy that said:



So My question to you is do Mexicans STILL want back the areas we took from them?
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What, so they can **** it up like they have Mexico. They would be native Americans if it wasn't for the Spanairds, turning them into Mexicans. So technically they are foreigners (originally) like us. Secondly, it isn't their land, it was bought and paid for, and Texas won the war.
 
TOJ said:
Why don't you let them have CA. Should like a win-win to me.

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The only thing wrong with California is the people that live there. Get rid of them, and it's all good.
 
American said:
What, so they can **** it up like they have Mexico. They would be native Americans if it wasn't for the Spanairds, turning them into Mexicans. So technically they are foreigners (originally) like us. Secondly, it isn't their land, it was bought and paid for, and Texas won the war.
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Yep. They should just be glad we let them have mexico city back. That was rather nice of us.

We probably should have just kept it in the first place.
 
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Let's give them Arizona so they can have a panhandle. It would save us a fortune is legal fees.
 
jamesrage said:
I voted other. I think it's just an excuse pro-illegal immigration groups use to justify illegal immigration. The idea that you should be entitled to a piece of land just because your ancestors at one time or another lived there is idiotic.
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Just like the Jews and Palestinians, no?
 
Do Mexicans want their land back, meaning that what is now the southwestern US would be under the authority of the Mexican government? No.

Do Mexicans want their land back in the sense that they want to come here and live in the US, under the US government? Quite a few of them do, as seen by the numbers of Mexicans streaming across the border.

Now, they do bring their culture with them, no question. There is a Mexican restaurant on every corner around here, for example, and you see signs in Spanish all over.

But, do they want this area to be dominated by Mexico politically? Hardly. Outside of a few radicals like Aztlan, no one wants to annex former Mexican lands under the Mexican flag.
 
The Giant Noodle said:
Just like the Jews and Palestinians, no?
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I do not think people who just because they or their parents who happened to share the same religion of the inhabitants of that land a long time ago are entitled to it today. The only reason they have legitimacy to the land today is because the Ottoman empire was split up into different by countries by the victors of WWI and the British Mandate for Palestine was one of those things that helped create Israel of today. In a sense to the victor go the spoil of war.
 
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jamesrage said:
I do not think people who just because they or their parents who happened to share the same religion of the inhabitants of that land a long time ago are entitled to it today. ...
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Exactly like Israel.
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
Illegal aliens from Mexico and illegal Israeli settlers have the same impact on existing indigenous populations in California and the West Bank respectively.
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It could also be argued that illegal aliens from Europe had a negative impact on the native Americans in what is now Mexico and the US as well.
 
Dittohead not! said:
It could also be argued that illegal aliens from Europe had a negative impact on the native Americans in what is now Mexico and the US as well.
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The argument could not only be made, it would be true. What is the difference between Americans who welcome illegal aliens into the country, and the Mandan Sioux who welcomed Lewis and Clark? There is no practical difference.

For me the Mandan are not a model. Rather, the Shawnee and Tecumseh are the figurative model.

Edit: Point of order. Illegality is a matter of law. The First People's of North America did not have laws proscribing illegal immigration. Thus, modern illegal immigration into America is sui generis.
 
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Laila said:
.... there are no more slaves in US and haven't been for a while
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Sorry if you and others did not understand what I was putting down. I was being sarcastic..

Now having said all that? I will say that there are still slaves in the U.S. just not in the worse sense that we are talking about. People are still slaves to the "Man", women are still slaves due to fact they make less, etc. Sure it is not on any kind of level that "real" slaves were but slaves are still here.

And anybody that has a problem with my compairson can suck it.

Edit to say: Noodle: I am fully aware of La Raza and if you knew my posting history you would know that. Do not try to school me on a damn thing. And if you do not wish for folks to call out racism then maybe you need to refrain from starting bait type threads. Just had to say it since you pretty much accused me of being a troll. You best check your self on that and I expect you to say sorry pretty fast!
 
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