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Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

Yes or No?


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Did you at least catch my answer to her question?

Her meaning IT2002?

I said "believe", not "think". Very different meanings there.

Fair enough... they are different.

We were also cursed with predictive behavioral patterns, negative influences and personality faults. You're point?

My point is that God is seamless and that each individual is blessed with God's love and with that we are granted the ability to think for ourselves and interpret our own meanings of love and compassion. People are not subjected to one set of ideas that are dictated to us by other people, even pastors or bishops or priests. They know no more than I do, or Your Star, about God's message, nor does the Bible, for that matter.
 
Of course it does. Two loving,caring, nurturing parents will always promote "family".

That being said it is not the ONLY relationship that promotes it.
 
Of course it does. Two loving,caring, nurturing parents will always promote "family".

That being said it is not the ONLY relationship that promotes it.

Great Liberal talking points...
 
Her meaning IT2002?

"Her" being YourStar's post 183, which my answer in post 186 is what you've been arguing against all this time.

God tells people different things because we're different people. We don't all come from the same background, have the same personalities, or are facing the same problems.

My point is that God is seamless and that each individual is blessed with God's love and with that we are granted the ability to think for ourselves and interpret our own meanings of love and compassion. People are not subjected to one set of ideas that are dictated to us by other people, even pastors or bishops or priests. They know no more than I do, or Your Star, about God's message, nor does the Bible, for that matter.

Sure, if you're the kind of person who wants your own interpretation. I don't see the need, though.
 
So you would argue that Family can ONLY be "promoted" by "married" heterosexual parents?

I would wait for you to answer my question before answering your question.
 
Of course you would, but your question is a diversion from my response to the original question asked.

Divorce is a separate issue.....

I would wait for you to answer my question before answering your question.
 
Except I'm not a Lib :)

I am a Conservtarian.

I doubt you know too many same sex families.

I would almost go so far as to bet my children's lives that I have known and know more same-sex families and homosexuals than you and most people on the planet will ever know. That being said, I did not say that you were Liberal, just that the talking points were Liberal.
 
fam·i·ly   

a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not
 
Of course you would, but your question is a diversion from my response to the original question asked.

Divorce is a separate issue.....

My question is my response to your contribution. You question responding to my question and your accusing me of diversion are the diversions. You made an absolute statement, care to back it up or no? Either way is fine.
 
Let's start again, you would ascribe them to a Liberal....and you would be falling into the trap of black and white labels.

As far as you "knowing" more "homosexual" people than I....well thats no more than a "my dick is bigger than your dick" statement...and it is silly.



I would almost go so far as to bet my children's lives that I have known and know more same-sex families and homosexuals than you and most people on the planet will ever know. That being said, I did not say that you were Liberal, just that the talking points were Liberal.
 
Back up what?

Your question had nothing to do with my contribution what so ever....not establishing a base point of any discussion renders said discussion meaningless.

You imply that my statement is wrong...feel free to show such, but you will never be able to run in circles with your arguement.

My question is my response to your contribution. You question responding to my question and your accusing me of diversion are the diversions. You made an absolute statement, care to back it up or no? Either way is fine.
 
Back up what?

Your question had nothing to do with my contribution what so ever....not establishing a base point of any discussion renders said discussion meaningless.

You imply that my statement is wrong...feel free to show such, but you will never be able to run in circles with your arguement.

Damn I was hopping you would be willing to back up your claim. Oh well. Have a good evening :2wave:
 
Let's start again, you would ascribe them to a Liberal....and you would be falling into the trap of black and white labels.

As far as you "knowing" more "homosexual" people than I....well thats no more than a "my dick is bigger than your dick" statement...and it is silly.

Then don't start with such a silly challenge as me not knowing same sex couples... that, is silly. If you want to man up and challenge somebody, then don't wussy out and attempt to turn the tables back on them when they call you on it. I lived in some of the most homosexual areas one earth. I worked with them, lived with them and played with them. Maybe you can't say the same and then that would make your challenge even sillier...

Regarding to traps... you are waste deep in one and slipping in deeper due to lack of awareness...
 
Do tell what the Divorce Rate has to do with promoting "Family"...I am giving you every opportunity...at this point your question is random....and as such deflection.

Damn I was hopping you would be willing to back up your claim. Oh well. Have a good evening :2wave:
 
Back up what?

Your question had nothing to do with my contribution what so ever....not establishing a base point of any discussion renders said discussion meaningless.

You imply that my statement is wrong...feel free to show such, but you will never be able to run in circles with your arguement.

His base point is pretty obvious... "You question responding to my question and your accusing me of diversion are the diversions."
 
I grew up in the Bay Area, I do not share your implied phobias.

I sit here waiting for anyone to disprove what I said.....nobody has.

Now, IF you have spent so much time around "same sex" couples then you know they indeed promote "the Family"...sorry...you have no idea what I know ;)

Then don't start with such a silly challenge as me not knowing same sex couples... that, is silly. If you want to man up and challenge somebody, then don't wussy out and attempt to turn the tables back on them when they call you on it. I lived in some of the most homosexual areas one earth. I worked with them, lived with them and played with them. Maybe you can't say the same and then that would make your challenge even sillier...

Regarding to traps... you are waste deep in one and slipping in deeper due to lack of awareness...
 
Do tell what the Divorce Rate has to do with promoting "Family"...I am giving you every opportunity...at this point your question is random....and as such deflection.

Regarding divorce rates, it has nothing to do with "family"... Jerry is just confused again.
 
I grew up in the Bay Area, I do not share your implied phobias.

I sit here waiting for anyone to disprove what I said.....nobody has.

Now, IF you have spent so much time around "same sex" couples then you know they indeed promote "the Family"...sorry...you have no idea what I know ;)

I lived in the Bay Area too, primarily Sonoma Country and down in Laguna.

What did you say that you want dis-proven?

I argue that same sex families promote stability and promote family... since we have much of the same background, apparently, we would seem to be agreeing.
 
I am simply trying to get him to clarify for me...my Favorite people in the World are "Gay".

I KNOW what their values are and I love them for everything they are....and I love them for their relationship to thier children.

There are MANY screwed up people trying to "stay" in marriages that are shams.

Regarding divorce rates, it has nothing to do with "family"... Jerry is just confused again.
 
I grew up in the Bay Area, I do not share your implied phobias.

I sit here waiting for anyone to disprove what I said.....nobody has.

Now, IF you have spent so much time around "same sex" couples then you know they indeed promote "the Family"...sorry...you have no idea what I know ;)

So what? Anecdotal evidence means little. I mean I could say I also lived in Santa Rosa CA. which has a huge gay community as well, and than we partied in the bay area. Now I will also say I saw the exact opposite of what you are trying to say.

Now what?
 
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Then you need to show that "same sex" marriages do NOT "promote" family....

So what? Anecdotal evidence means little. I mean I could say I also lived in Santa Rosa CA. which has a huge gay community as well and than we partied in the bay area. Now I will also say I saw the exact opposite of what you are trying to say.

Now what?
 
Regarding divorce rates, it has nothing to do with "family"... Jerry is just confused again.

It's quite simple: If having 2 loving parents always promotes the family, why do they divorce half the time? You would have to believe that divorcing is an act of promoting the family, which doesn't follow.
 
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