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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To be objective, I see it differently. I see them as not being devout Christians at all, but state scriptures and try to argue their case as those they understand religion based from experience. They call people "Bible-thumpers" because those being called that are actually devout in their religion. Some truly devout Christians aren't only not phased, but take pride by being called that because it's essentially a non-believer making fun of their devotion and depth of experience.
    A non-Christian need not live a Christian life and experience religion in order to understand the words in the Bible any more than a non-American can understand the US Constitution. All it takes is a basic reading comprehension, and Viola! So we can use scripture to show inaccuracies any time we want and it will remain a valid form of debate.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    I was responding to Jerry's statements regarding Satan...he prefers to think of Satan in the "metaphorical" sense...but his belief in "scripture", most notably the New Int. Version doesn't support his contentions....if he wants to think of "Satan" in that sense...he must also think of "Jesus" in that sense.
    Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan), "the accuser",[1] is the title of various entities, both human and divine, who challenge the faith of humans in the Hebrew Bible.[2] In Christianity and Islam the title became a personal name, and "Satan" changed from an accuser appointed by God to test men's faith to the chief of the rebellious fallen angels ("the devil" in Christianity, "Shaitan" in Arabic, the term used by Arab Christians and Muslims).[3]

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    Lucifer, or Semjz, is the name of the leader of the Nephilim. It's accurate to use the title "Satan" to refer to Semjz, but not all Satans are the same individual.

    Smazz is not Arkba is not Rml is not Kkabl is not Tml is not Rml is not Dnl is not zql is not Barqjl is not Asl is not Armrs is not Batrl is not Annl is not Zaql is not Samspl is not Satarl is not Trl is not Jmjl is not Saril; but all are Satan.

    "Jesus", however, is not a title, but the name of an individual. "God" is a title, and so we can call Jesus "God" as we can call His Father "God".
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Meaning as I said...

    A) You don't actually believe the words of "Jesus"...
    B) You have placed yourself outside of mainstream "Christianity"...


    The Book of Enoch has never been canonical (in any religion)......you have placed yourself in the esoteric realm..and according to "real" "Bible" scholars...well....not "saved".


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Lucifer, or Semjz, is the name of the leader of the Nephilim. It's accurate to use the title "Satan" to refer to Semjz, but not all Satans are the same individual.

    Smazz is not Arkba is not Rml is not Kkabl is not Tml is not Rml is not Dnl is not zql is not Barqjl is not Asl is not Armrs is not Batrl is not Annl is not Zaql is not Samspl is not Satarl is not Trl is not Jmjl is not Saril; but all are Satan.

    "Jesus", however, is not a title, but the name of an individual. "God" is a title, and so we can call Jesus "God" as we can call His Father "God".
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Meaning as I said...

    A) You don't actually believe the words of "Jesus"...
    B) You have placed yourself outside of mainstream "Christianity"...


    The Book of Enoch has never been canonical (in any religion)......you have placed yourself in the esoteric realm..and according to "real" "Bible" scholars...well....not "saved".
    If you were a religious authority and if there were any consequence to what you believe, I might worry about it.

    It's been a while since the last real discussion on global history and religion, but it was no secret that I see truth in the Rig-Veda and other texts.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Stability and benefits to raise children, of course it promotes family.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No.

    "Satan" is more of a generic term used to describe just about any antagonistic Nephelim, whereas Lucifer is the name of a specific being. Some bible-thumper will say something like "abortion is the work of Satan", which is true in a general sense, but the name of the Nephilim which taught Man abortion is Kasayed; a Nephilim.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Marriage creates a family of two out of two single people, so yeah, marriage promotes family.
    Agreed. In fact, there is little reason to get married except to create a stable family environment. Sure, there are tax advantages, but how many straight couples marry for that reason? No reason gay couples would be different on that score.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Can you remind me again exactly what brand of Christianity that you follow?
    My church is not 501c3 tax exempt, which means officially we aren't any particular denomination; but no they don't discuss non cannon texts if that's where you're going.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    My church is not 501c3 tax exempt, which means officially we aren't any particular denomination; but no they don't discuss non cannon texts if that's where you're going.
    So you consider yourself?
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So you consider yourself?
    A Christian.

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