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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Meaning you don't like that your Jesus talked about Satan a lot

    But then...perhaps you believe in him in the "metaphorical" sense...

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    If you could perhaps remove all those numbers and provide some of your own content to supplement a quote I might know what your talking about and could reply.

    And no I use the NIV simply because i don't understand old English.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    I didn't, Jerry did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Not sure why you brought the difference between Lucifer and Satan into this(don't ask my belief on it). You've also brought in scripture. Since you accel in doing that, perhaps you wouldn't mind posting in the scripture in both the New and Old testamnet that are against homosexuality? I know they're there (sincerely), but you'd seem more apt to do so, and I have less time.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm a little perplexed by the wording. I don't actually think any marriage as such "promotes family." It doesn't promote anything, except two people decided for emotional and/or financial reasons that they want to spend a portion of their lives together. (I'd say their entire lives, but with the divorce rate at 50% that makes me sound a bit clueless!) Children actually promote family, in my view.

    If I understand what you actually mean, the opposite of what you're asking would be "Does SSM degrade or harm family?" Since my answer to that question would be "no", I suspect my answer to your question would be "yes."

    Or something.
    70% of woman who are murdered were killed by their husbands or live-in boyfriends. Marriage "can" promote stability in a relationship, but sex promotes family, not marriage. Marriage promotes stability, but can also promote murdering your wife.

    I don't think the value of marriage is based on what it promotes, but the stability it creates in a relationship. If that relationship involves children or pets, they will benefit, but it doesn't really promote children or pets.

    Pets can be a substitute for children. Does that mean pets promote "not" having a family? Only about half of all same-sex couples have children, so does that mean by allowing them to have recognized marriages, somehow promotes having children for the remaining 50%? Maybe maybe not, I don't think they are related.

    This whole question sounds kind of insane, to me.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    (smile).....you just lost this "debate"...you brought up the Bible

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    I like how they introduce scripture and religion into the thread and then accuse others of being the bible-thumper. Trolling at it's finest
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I like how they introduce scripture and religion into the thread and then accuse others of being the bible-thumper. Trolling at it's finest
    It's game over for ya. You admitted that scripture dictates your position. No more of the "I'd support same sex marriage if..." bullcrap that you pander on the forum.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    I didn't, Jerry did.
    Actually we're both incorrect but I'm incorrect the most. Kalit actually initiated theis question to Jerry:

    "Offtopic but curious do you consider Lucifer and Satan to be the same being?"

    However it seems you are partaking in that discussion. Because you brought in scripture on that issues, I would ask that you bring in scripture that does show that homosexuality is wrong in both parts of the Bible, since it seems you are insultuous towards Christians, yet bring in scripture at the same time.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It's game over for ya. You admitted that scripture dictates your position. No more of the "I'd support same sex marriage if..." bullcrap that you pander on the forum.
    Religion is a reasonable excuse to vote and have an opinion and vote based on it.

    Do you also imply that to be religious and vote based on your religious beliefs is somehow insane?

    Is this true or not?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To be objective, I see it differently. I see them as not being devout Christians at all, but state scriptures and try to argue their case as those they understand religion based from experience. They call people "Bible-thumpers" because those being called that are actually devout in their religion. Some truly devout Christians aren't only not phased, but take pride by being called that because it's essentially a non-believer making fun of their devotion and depth of experience.
    That's exactly what it is. I take pride in being recognized as a religious zealot. I'm also a legal, family, military and America zealot. It's not an insult.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Religion is a reasonable excuse to vote and have an opinion and vote based on it.

    Do you also imply that to be religious and vote based on your religious beliefs is somehow insane?

    Is this true or not?
    Everyone is entitled to their personal sensibilities. I just don't like it when people are intellectually dishonest about them.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    I was responding to Jerry's statements regarding Satan...he prefers to think of Satan in the "metaphorical" sense...but his belief in "scripture", most notably the New Int. Version doesn't support his contentions....if he wants to think of "Satan" in that sense...he must also think of "Jesus" in that sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Actually we're both incorrect but I'm incorrect the most. Kalit actually initiated theis question to Jerry:

    "Offtopic but curious do you consider Lucifer and Satan to be the same being?"

    However it seems you are partaking in that discussion. Because you brought in scripture on that issues, I would ask that you bring in scripture that does show that homosexuality is wrong in both parts of the Bible, since it seems you are insultuous towards Christians, yet bring in scripture at the same time.
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