Our difference is whether or not SSM is against the rules of the God we both already agree exists, and yes that's easy to prove with a simple scriptural quote.
Your arguments are all flawed in numerous ways anyway. Incest has demonstrable and unique, fatal problems that develop with multi-generational inbreeding. There is no getting around that. Mating with someone because they are a carrier of a diseased gene that may or may not express itself is entirely different than inbreeding, in which the two sets of similar DNA themselves are the problem, as they lack diversity.
The polygamy argument has been debunked numerous times but you and people like you seem deafened to evidence. Modern child psychology has demonstrated repeatedly that children do not benefit from transient parental environments or those with multiple parental figures, like three people all being called mom or dad. It's different in family communities where there are aunts, uncles, and other types of role-takers because they are not as central as the parents. Two central parents provide the best outcome. It's already been proven, just as it's been proven that it doesn't matter if those two parents are same-sex or different-sex, in which case, granting them the security and state benefits of marriage only makes sense because it will provide additional direct benefit to children.
There is not really more to debate. Yes you can choose to vote for or against it, and many people will make the wrong decision that isn't based on facts. The facts show that SSM is beneficial to same-sex couples with children, period. You cannot deny it.
Certainly if people weren't so hateful about homosexuality, there would be fewer youth suicides and fewer beatings of kids who appear to be gay.
And until studies are completed, we won't know - but it's quite possible that married couples in Massachusetts will have fewer incidences of domestic violence, infidelity, and drug/alcohol abuse. THUS, promoting family.
Ahh so you're retracting your argument:Yes you can choose to vote for or against it...
You just think I'm anti-SSM just because I can shoot down your cookie-cutter arguments
Hey guess what? The Constitution and the Deceleration of Independence were written by humans, too...that doesn't make them any less valid.
Please keep in mind, however, that Pro-SSM brought the bible into this discussion. If you follow the track-backs, you'll see that religion, the church, and what the bible has to say was initiated by YourStar in post 124. It's been a part of this thread for a long time and is not simply excluded because you say so. YouStar has been caught in an integrity fault by cherry-picking scripture. Do you want to help her out or just abandon your fellow pro-SSM?
Last edited by Jerry; 02-12-11 at 03:16 PM.
There's not much to stop the festering decadence in this country. I am against the sin of homosexuality, but I know that, as time wears on, people will only continue to beat down the "norms" of morality.
Those that don't believe will continue on their merry way. They believe so strongly that if something is harmless, that it is not a sin. That notion makes harmless perversion nonexistent to them. All I can do is wait and see what happens to everyone after this life. Then again, being more "open-minded", as liberals squawk, I know that there are many people who call themselves Christians that take pride in vanity, greed, and pride. But whatever; that's for another thread. I merely say that I see many perverse things not only from liberals and homosexuals, but also from Christians and conservative to "high-class" vain people.
Do not think I focalize on homosexuality.
It's no secret that I hold fervor or tireless devotion for a person, cause, or ideal and determination in its furtherance; diligent enthusiasm and powerful interest in the Lord. In fact I don't know why anyone would ever truthfully deny being a zealot of their cause unless they had an integrity issue, or a simple lack of motivation.
Academics aside, yes I honestly would support SSM if it were principally about the family. But it's not, and every thread, post and argument on the "strictly legal contract", "right to contract" and "equal protection" are a witness. SSM barely regards the family as an after thought, searching for the rare exceptions in their ranks to drag before the public eye to support a hollow argument.
I know that SSM will be legalized eventually because I know that this Earth is ruled by Lucifer. It therefore follows that sin would be made acceptable.
Last edited by Jerry; 02-12-11 at 07:39 PM.