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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, Jerry. What you've done is be argumentative, and misrepresent folks' point of view.
    Right, that's now I argued my point...continue....

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    You came in here misrepresenting posters' positions.
    ...deliberately, yes, it serves a purpose....continue...

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    They're supposed to call me on it. That's the whole point. Well, not you, 'cuz you've been around, but the n00b who wrote the OP....

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    False premise Jerry. Simple as that. If someone brings it up, I state my position. I don't start threads. Your premise on this is illogical and wrong. Drop it.
    You don't start such threads, hell neither do I, but my point is that neither does anyone else. Go to the ME forum and you'll see threads arguing the merits of various policy. Law n Order forum, you'll find threads promoting the benefit of an armed society. Military forum, you'll find threads promoting a given military action. But not here. The most we see in this forum is a court ruling, and even then it's only posted if there's an argument to be had.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You don't start such threads, hell neither do I, but my point is that neither does anyone else. Go to the ME forum and you'll see threads arguing the merits of various policy. Law n Order forum, you'll find threads promoting the benefit of an armed society. Military forum, you'll find threads promoting a given military action. But not here. The most we see in this forum is a court ruling, and even then it's only posted if there's an argument to be had.
    Someone really should start a thread detailing how Same-Sex Marriage is ruining our soil.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    No.

    You have to pull teeth to get pro-SSM to even mention anyone other than the "consenting adults" on the "strictly legal constract". SSM doesn't give a **** about family. They never did, they never will. The world has more important things to worry about then if some dude can put some other dude on his insurance plan.
    My question wasn't "Do people you've have had debates about SSM with use family values as an argument for endorsing SSM" My question was does SSM promote family. Now if you want to answer my question feel free, but if you are going to continue to do this please tell me so I don't waste my time.

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    No, you're a "strictly legal contracted" woman. And she's not your 'wife', she's your "partner". This is the vocabulary your side has presented, and is one way we know that pro-SSM is not about the family. You're about just whatever feels good, whatever that may be. In your case, specifically, at best you're the broken watch.
    Also this post is not only inaccurate but extremely rude. If she calls her wife her wife, then there is nothing that you can say to invalidate that, and using this ridiculous theory that she can't use those words because "our side"(like that means anything of substance) has used different words is so ridiculous it barely justifies a response.
    I also use the terms, girlfriend/wife, boyfriend/husband in talking about same sex relationships, partners are for science projects.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Right, that's now I argued my point...continue....



    ...deliberately, yes, it serves a purpose....continue...



    They're supposed to call me on it. That's the whole point. Well, not you, 'cuz you've been around, but the n00b who wrote the OP....
    1) The person who started the OP is no noob. She's been posting on this forum for a bit and posts a lot on this issue.
    2) Your posts that present you as trolling for an argument are getting REAL old. See, perhaps noobs will call you on the misrepresenting of your position, but I and a few others will call you on your behavior. When the latter happens, whatever purpose you would have wanted to accomplish will be rendered impotent. There's enough argumentativeness in these threads without YOU creating some intentionally.
    3) Go back to actually debating, Jerry. You were much better at that.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    My question wasn't "Do people you've have had debates about SSM with use family values as an argument for endorsing SSM" My question was does SSM promote family. Now if you want to answer my question feel free, but if you are going to continue to do this please tell me so I don't waste my time.



    Also this post is not only inaccurate but extremely rude. If she calls her wife her wife, then there is nothing that you can say to invalidate that, and using this ridiculous theory that she can't use those words because "our side"(like that means anything of substance) has used different words is so ridiculous it barely justifies a response.
    I also use the terms, girlfriend/wife, boyfriend/husband in talking about same sex relationships, partners are for science projects.
    YS, Jerry's just trying to start an argument. It's been his thing for a bit. Don't feed into it.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You don't start such threads, hell neither do I, but my point is that neither does anyone else. Go to the ME forum and you'll see threads arguing the merits of various policy. Law n Order forum, you'll find threads promoting the benefit of an armed society. Military forum, you'll find threads promoting a given military action. But not here. The most we see in this forum is a court ruling, and even then it's only posted if there's an argument to be had.
    Most threads get started because of an incident, situation, or issue with a conflict... pro or con. More academic issues around "why's" or "how's" rarely get started. Conflict stirs interest.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Yes. I think that SSM lends a totally different perspective on homosexuality. Rather than being viewed as simply living together or being partners, allowing SSM in itself changes the view to family, because married people ARE family. Thus, rather than appearing as only a "life-style" choice, SSM shows that homosexuals are not some counter-culture, anti-family group that serves the devil, but rather simply PEOPLE who have a family and wish to live it as makes them happy. Ultimately, I believe this is why so many are ardently opposed to SSM, for if just allowed, they fear homosexuality will become widely "accepted" and promoted.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Yes or no, and explain your answer.

    I say yes, SSM promotes family just like opposite sex marriage.
    Once you see the couples offspring, you wonder why it wasn't more obvious.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Once you see the couples offspring, you wonder why it wasn't more obvious.
    Same sex couples can have kids, and marriage only promotes them having children, care to prove otherwise?
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