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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Wow, that was absolute sophistry. You said nothing.

    Also the word you were looking for was "immaterial" not "material". If you are going to practice mindless rhetoric then at least use the correct words.

    Also, if most parents wanted kids as much as you seem to claim, then abortion and adoption would not exist. You are not even presenting a decent or coherent argument anymore.
    Boy.. I used the word correctly in this context. There ARE material reasons why not bringing a child into the world would be best, but they ARE exceptional.



    You are not even presenting a decent or coherent argument anymore
    Well it's comforting to at least know that I was at one time in this discussion.


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    As to my point about SSM proponents first making a mockery of marriage, and then now embracing the concept in terms of first and foremost being that of the best way to produce and raise children is laughable, inconsistent, and you, and CT, and many others are hypocrits for straddling the proverbial fence. My point about society, marriage, children is that OSM proponents have been making this rational argument for years, and it is dismissed, muddied by you folks, and diminished as unimportant to those that argue for equity in the law, yet, now that you seem confident that marriage rights are just around the corner, you are agreeing with those very same folks that clung to the "marriage is about children and raising them" argument, and that society has every right to protect that arrangement.

    Sorry, no.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Boy.. I used the word correctly in this context. There ARE material reasons why not bringing a child into the world would be best, but they ARE exceptional.
    ROFL. You are so full of crap. "but they are material, and also exceptional" is what you said. You suck at equivocation so why not give it up and stop embarrassing yourself?

    Well it's comforting to at least know that I was at one time in this discussion.
    I'm just assuming you were.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I have to agree. In fact, lots of married heterosexuals are getting abortions. So much higher than that is the gay couple who want to adopt.


    Abortions are a crude form of birth control. Why is birth control thrown into this argument in support of CT's assertions? How does it address YourStar's premise, specifically? Or yours?


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    ROFL. You are so full of crap. "but they are material, and also exceptional" is what you said. You suck at equivocation so why not give it up and stop embarrassing yourself?



    I'm just assuming you were.
    OMG.. Why pray tell can something NOT be mateiral and exceptional you moron?


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    By the way, are we done yet? I can't afford to ignore my work for another day arguing with the likes of you, CT..

    It's tiresome


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Perhaps within your own home, but your opinions apply to absolutely nobody else...

    A debate is not won or lost by simply saying I am "right", and you are "wrong"....which is your only real tactic here.

    As for the semantics you revert to in earlier posts, well that tactic is for those who need to define what the word "is" means....and not really a strong place to argue from.





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    Not really...I mean, consider it....I am both a loyal following and a benevolent ruler....self governance...it's a win/win.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Perhaps within your own home, but your opinions apply to absolutely nobody else...

    A debate is not won or lost by simply saying I am "right", and you are "wrong"....which is your only real tactic here.

    As for the semantics you revert to in earlier posts, well that tactic is for those who need to define what the word "is" means....and not really a strong place to argue from.
    Oh.. Well ok then, thanks!


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Abortions are a crude form of birth control. Why is birth control thrown into this argument in support of CT's assertions? How does it address YourStar's premise, specifically? Or yours?


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    Most abortions occur for the sake of convenience, not necessity, and it is based on that fact that I argue that the gay-couple looking to take responsibility are superior to the hetero-couple who are derelict.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Most abortions occur for the sake of convenience, not necessity, and it is based on that fact that I argue that the gay-couple looking to take responsibility are superior to the hetero-couple who are derelict.
    then why don't more of these responsible gay couples adopt kids instead of going to all the expense of invitro or surrogacy?
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