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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Another question. If the parents abuse, neglect, molest, abandon, or kill their offspring, do you still consider it a family just because they are biologically related?
    Not a family.. But family, yes!

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Not a family.. But family, yes!

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    That doesn't make any sense. But most of what you post is unsubstantiated lies and bull**** so I don't know why that would surprise me.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. But most of what you post is unsubstantiated lies and bull**** so I don't know why that would surprise me.
    I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.

    YourStar asked if SSM promotes family?

    I replied that it does not in the strictest sense. It cannot without manipulating the biological process, and even then, it cannot ever produce a child that conatins the DNA of both parents. Hence, if anything it is only half the family. How can something that can only ever be 50% of what otherwise would be the genetic material of both a father and a mother be considered promoting family? Without said technologies, how can a homosexual couple produce a family at all?

    In this sense, YourStar is incorrect. Homosexual couples, and homosexuality cannot promote family!


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.

    YourStar asked if SSM promotes family?

    I replied that it does not in the strictest sense. It cannot without manipulating the biological process, and even then, it cannot ever produce a child that conatins the DNA of both parents. Hence, if anything it is only half the family. How can something that can only ever be 50% of what otherwise would be the genetic material of both a father and a mother be considered promoting family? Without said technologies, how can a homosexual couple produce a family at all?

    In this sense, YourStar is incorrect. Homosexual couples, and homosexuality cannot promote family!


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    So adoptions aren't family? The only way to have a family is through shared DNA?
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.

    YourStar asked if SSM promotes family?

    I replied that it does not in the strictest sense. It cannot without manipulating the biological process, and even then, it cannot ever produce a child that conatins the DNA of both parents. Hence, if anything it is only half the family. How can something that can only ever be 50% of what otherwise would be the genetic material of both a father and a mother be considered promoting family? Without said technologies, how can a homosexual couple produce a family at all?

    In this sense, YourStar is incorrect. Homosexual couples, and homosexuality cannot promote family!


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    Basically then, only 25% of the families in the United States meet your definition of family because they constitute a traditional nuclear family. All those step families, single parent families, grandparent headed families, widowed families, adopted families, etc. are not really families.

    What a useless definition of family you endorse. Even ecologists recognize that a group of animals living together can constitute a family even if they are not genetically related. Adoption occurs in the wild among socialized animals.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    So adoptions are family? The only way to have a family is through shared DNA?
    Not A family, but family. That is correct!

    You know folks, it's really not that complicated.


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Not A family, but family. That is correct!

    You know folks, it's really not that complicated.


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    Yeah, you have made up your own definition of family. It's that simple. I have never heard of a definition of family as narrow as the one you are advocating in this thread.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Basically then, only 25% of the families in the United States meet your definition of family because they constitute a traditional nuclear family. All those step families, single parent families, grandparent headed families, widowed families, adopted families, etc. are not really families.

    What a useless definition of family you endorse. Even ecologists recognize that a group of animals living together can constitute a family even if they are not genetically related. Adoption occurs in the wild among socialized animals.
    Well, I wouldn't say it's useless. I suspect with a great degree of certainty that our common ancestors were not homosexual.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Well, I wouldn't say it's useless. I suspect with a great degree of certainty that our common ancestors were not homosexual.

    Tim-
    I don't think you can make that assertion. Just because someone is homosexual does not mean they have not engaged in heterosexual sex or procreated.

    Of course, that doesn't change the fact that it is your individual definition and it is so narrow that it is completely useless and irrelevant to this thread.

    I also think anyone who was raised outside of a traditional nuclear family might take offense to you claiming they weren't really raised in family.
    Last edited by CriticalThought; 02-09-11 at 02:01 AM.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yeah, you have made up your own definition of family. It's that simple. I have never heard of a definition of family as narrow as the one you are advocating in this thread.
    Lets remove the frosting shall we?

    Why do you think you instinctually want to have children? Forget about technology for a moment, and lets assume that even hard core lesbians want, and long for children of their own. Now, if you couldn't have children without technological help, or if a woman sleeps with a man only for the "purpose" of having a child, what necessarily would be the driving force behind wanting to do so? Outside of an material, or selfish and unselfish needs, what "posses" someone to want children? Why is it we mate?


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