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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    no only certain CASES in nature fit your opinion of what you THINK family is but many do not. Those are the facts

    Think what you want but again the facts go against you, not with you, and denying it wont change the facts and Im not upset at all I always find you VERY entertaining. lol
    Is an offspring of two parents not family?


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Start here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...post1059177542

    If that one doesn't show you, then look for the one by Redress back a few months ago. The "Patterson" study was thoroughly refuted by me.


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    Nope, don't see anything about rich lesbians being as good as average heterosexuals. Care to substantiate it or are you going to continue to play this game?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Is an offspring of two parents not family?


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    LMAO

    again this has NOTHING to do with the debate, nothing
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    LMAO

    again this has NOTHING to do with the debate, nothing
    I see.. Well thanks for playing, twas fun and all.


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Is an offspring of two parents not family?


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    Another question. If the parents abuse, neglect, molest, abandon, or kill their offspring, do you still consider it a family just because they are biologically related?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    That's an interesting twist? All I can say is.. Huh? Answer me first, that would be the considerate thing to do.


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    You can't tell that little Johnny is related without blood lines or DNA... it would not be immediately clear if they were family or not, now go ahead and answe mine and discuss how either situation relates to whom is family to whom.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I see.. Well thanks for playing, twas fun and all.


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    Finally!!! He admits defeat and flees the grounds...
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I see.. Well thanks for playing, twas fun and all.


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    no problem if you ever change your ways and want to actually bring something to the table that is logical or relvant let me know
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh look who wants to play. You can pick up where you left off:

    You are in the proper thread.
    No, actually we are not but I will play.

    It is not adequate because the current marriage license sets up for two people to be each others closest relative. It says that the woman will make the decisions for the man and the man will make the decisions for the woman when one of the two is not able to make those decisions hisself/herself. It can easily be changed to allow a different man to replace the woman or a different woman to replace the man. The same does not work when you have more than two people involved because the marriage license does not get into specifics for any couple, it simply states which two people will be responsible for the decisions of each other. The same does not apply to when you have more than two people involved, because the current rules are specifically set up for two people, but the gender of those two people will not affect how those rules can be applied.

    Also, your example of two guys robbing a bank, getting married, and being protected against testifying is wrong on so many levels. First of all, they would have to be married to each other before they talked about the robbery at all, because the law only protects them from testifying on intimate relationship conversations that took place during the legal marriage. Second, they wouldn't be called to a stand to testify against each other if they were both involved in the crime anyway, because that would set them up for self incrimination, and is not allowed.

    BTW, I have stated many times that there should be some marriage contract available to polygamous families that gave them an opportunity to make them all family. It can't work with the current contract however, and it is the couples that want this who have the responsibility for coming up with a way to make it work for them, not the government. The gay community has it easy in this regard since the current marriage contract works fine for their relationship with one small change of adjusting the gender blocks of the marriage license so that it can be either two men, two women, or one man and one woman. No change in the actual application of the current marriage contract is necessary.

    Now that I have provided what you asked for (again), you can answer some of my questions. Instead of going off on things that I never brought up in this thread.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You can't tell that little Johnny is related without blood lines or DNA... it would not be immediately clear if they were family or not, now go ahead and answe mine and discuss how either situation relates to whom is family to whom.
    Who said anything about being immediate? Are you deliberately being dishonest? It's ok, you can say it clearly. Little Johnny is family, and is the immediate descendant of poor mamma and papa..

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    Why don't you prove that a married Sara (who survived the crash) and Tim (who died in the crash), who have two kids, are family after they Tim died in a plane crash. No DNA. No blood lines. Nothing. Are you going to say that neither Tim nor Sara are family now or justify it in some way?
    I couldn't prove it if Tim died, and we had no DNA? That's kinda the point isn't it? Tim and Sara are NOT family, however they were ONCE a family; that is before Tim's demise.


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