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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    He already has the term "Nuclear Family", which is a term that does not apply to same-sex couples. What, then, shall we call same-sex couples?
    Nuclear Family... fine. Call a same sex family a Same Sex Family... the common usage of the term "family" applies to both still, problem solved. Next issue?

    Originally Posted by Hiccup
    No, what I am attempting to do is clear the air. Whatever "type" of family you wish to have, or I, or anyone, lays no bearing on the fact that a family in any natural sense can only ever be one thing. Any cultural meaning of a family is just that. Cultural. It's a human construction, and it's subjective. The family I define is completely objective, free of dirty water.
    Right, a "Family" is a grouping. Once that is understood, attempting to limit some groups from using the term is illogical.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nuclear Family... fine. Call a same sex family a Same Sex Family... the common usage of the term "family" applies to both still, problem solved. Next issue?
    Same-Sex Family implies that everyone is the same sex and gay....it doesn't work...

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    Right, a "Family" is a grouping. Once that is understood, attempting to limit some groups from using the term is illogical.
    They're just descriptions.

    Labeling the light frequency range of 560nm-490nm "green" doesn't limit light or the frequency; it just helps us relate to it.

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    But not all light frequency is the same...what about light frequencies just below 490nm? Huh? Huh internet tough guy? You have all teh answers.
    Well light frequency just below the 490nm range is called "blue".

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    ZOMG who are you to tell light frequencies what to call themselves!!
    That's just what it's called...

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    Maybe that's what your church tells you to think but in the real world light frequencies are free to call themselves purple if they want!!
    Well sure a light frequency of 700nm-635nm could call itself "purple" all day but that doesn't mean it's actually in the 450nm-400nm range.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nuclear Family... fine. Call a same sex family a Same Sex Family... the common usage of the term "family" applies to both still, problem solved. Next issue?



    Right, a "Family" is a grouping. Once that is understood, attempting to limit some groups from using the term is illogical.
    you seem shocked as you expected different?
    The topic of the OP is family, Marriage either fulfills that requirement or doesnt trying to separate them will ALWAYS lack logic.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    You understand this sentence totally condridicts itself right?

    Your definition is also subjective and is NOT objective at all nor is YOUR opinioin of what a family is in any natural sense a fact.

    If you want to clear the air, the only fact here is that your OPINIONS ARE the dirty water.
    The only thing missing was the LOL at the end of each sentence.. LOL

    Ok, so I'll bite. Care to refute my assertion that the only true family is that contained within bloodlines?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nuclear Family... fine. Call a same sex family a Same Sex Family... the common usage of the term "family" applies to both still, problem solved. Next issue?



    Right, a "Family" is a grouping. Once that is understood, attempting to limit some groups from using the term is illogical.
    Right a "grouping" Well lets pull off their finger prints, and remove their teeth. Now what are they?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The only thing missing was the LOL at the end of each sentence.. LOL

    Ok, so I'll bite. Care to refute my assertion that the only true family is that contained within bloodlines?

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    That's an easy one: What you're calling a "technical family" is already called a "natural family" and is but a variation, not a pure element.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Not for nothing, (I didn't answer this stupid poll) but, you, and YourStar, and others on your side, have argued ad infinitum that "marriage" isn't about kids at all, and even further some have argued that the state's interest in marriage has nothing to do with the little ones. Do you NEED me to perform a search to prove that you've all claimed this position countless times?
    I have been the biggest advocate on this forum for the family argument of same sex marriage. I can point out entire threads that I have dedicated to that argument. Don't even do that strawman bull**** with me.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's an easy one: What you're calling a "technical family" is already called a "natural family" and is but a variation, not a pure element.
    Right, and that's my point. Remove the subjectivity, and you are left with only one defining criterion. When issues become muddy, you need to wash them by beginning at the beginning. The question is does SSM marriage promote family? Well, the answer, all things being equal, is a firm no! If the question were, "Does SSM promote my defintion of a family", YourStar must answer in the affirmative. However, lacking certain natural and intrinsic characterstics her definition may be, she is still correct, but only within the context of her definition. Go outside for a little fresh air, and things are not as crystal clear anymore.


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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The only thing missing was the LOL at the end of each sentence.. LOL

    Ok, so I'll bite. Care to refute my assertion that the only true family is that contained within bloodlines?

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    What are heterosexual families that adopt then? And then there are also people that are so close friendship wise that they consider each other to be brothers/sisters and call each other family?
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Same-Sex Family implies that everyone is the same sex and gay....it doesn't work...
    It denotes the sex of the adult couple. Call it non-Nuclear Families then, it matters not, so long as they are accepted as a family.

    They're just descriptions.

    Labeling the light frequency range of 560nm-490nm "green" doesn't limit light or the frequency; it just helps us relate to it.
    Descriptions shouldn't scare anybody away from accepting them...

    Originally Posted by Centrist77
    You seem shocked as you expected different?
    The topic of the OP is family, Marriage either fulfills that requirement or doesnt trying to separate them will ALWAYS lack logic.
    Not shocked, just slightly annoyed at the uncompromising and rude nature of people... but that is just how it is.

    Originally Posted by Hiccup
    Well lets pull off their finger prints, and remove their teeth. Now what are they?
    Did you suffer head trauma earlier in life? What in the **** does this have to do with anything?

    Right a "grouping"
    Family is a grouping. Same Sex groupings are families. Glad to see that you agree.
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