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Thread: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Take off your blinders buddy and you will see... and did you live in Santa Rosa? We lived in Sebastopol for a time and also up in the hills almost to Calistoga.
    No blinders my friend, just fact. I mean don't get me wrong, I know plenty of fine gay people and monogamous couples, but they are the minority by far.

    Wow Sevastopol, have not heard that name in years. I worked at a Taco Bell there in 87, lol. Don't know where Calistoga is?
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Sorry, you rely on a definition of "Family" that comforts you.

    You also rely on a misperception that "gay" people have sex with anything that moves, not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This has nothing to do with my statement to you, but I will bite.

    I does not by it's very nature. 2 homosexuals cannot breed, so no family. Now my statement does not take into account modern science or gays who come from marriages with children, but at it's root in nature etc, no family.

    Edit: what it does appear to promote is hedonism and a free sexual life style, not all, but to an outsider looking in this is far to common. Trying to say it promotes family as I said before is very recent and a ploy to get people to accept gay marriage.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    But you are also implying that everything is absolute, it isn't.
    That's my position, which is why I challenged your absolute statement in your post 202.

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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Would you "feel" better if I had said "in my experience"?
    No. It would however make you look like you are not trying to make baseless blanket statements and appeals to emotion.

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    Goes to Jerry's arguement, we must multi-task here.
    Then you should mention that or point it out in some way as I have no idea what you and Jerry are debating.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    That's all you have to say, but you see.....there is much room for disagreement....you do know that some the most screwed up kids ever are kids of the Clergy?

    Family is a much broader term than we might think.

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    That's my position, which is why I challenged your absolute statement in your post 202.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    uummmm WHAT!? Am I in an alternate "bizarro" reality?
    I always thought so, but that's besides the point


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What in the hell does divorce have to do with parents loving their children?
    Nothing at all.

    It does have to do with "promoting the family", though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nothing, it has to do with the pair not loving each other, or being able to live with one another for various reasons.
    I never stated the contrary. It's because you're going off on something no one said which is why I think you're in an "alternate "bizarro" reality".

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I know that in my divorce which just happened, we loved each other and both love our daughters immensely, but she has borderline personality disorder and that completely ruined our marriage.
    I feel your pain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Divorce is an act of destabilizing families and nothing to do with same sex marriage. Why don't you introduce something equally irrelevant like monkeys killing other monkeys or something... seriously, get off the irrelevant divorce thing.
    Amazed said "Two loving,caring, nurturing parents will always promote "family"."

    Always.

    If that were true, then since we all agree that divorce undermines the family, two loving,caring, nurturing parents would never divorce.

    But they do, which disproves Amazed's premise.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Sorry, you rely on a definition of "Family" that comforts you.
    I go by the same definition that we as a society follow to this day. Has nothing to do with comfort at all.

    Now you need to direct your answers to refuting what I said rather than fallacy arguments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    You also rely on a misperception that "gay" people have sex with anything that moves, not true.
    No. I rely on the truth of the situation and the role gays have played in our society and it's development. Now stop making assumptions, adding in some hyperbole and address my statements.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Emotion is not my forte, logic is...and logic is NOT relegated to emotional appeal.

    You responded to a conversation that Jerry and I were having, it is YOUR job to figure that out....no ONE statement can be separated out and attacked from it's context.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No. It would however make you look like you are not trying to make baseless blanket statements and appeals to emotion.



    Then you should mention that or point it out in some way as I have no idea what you and Jerry are debating.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Nope, sorry.

    Your statements rely on definitions YOU are comfortable with.

    I, and millions like me do not ascribe to your "definitions".

    We also know that NONE of this black and white....sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I go by the same definition that we as a society follow to this day. Has nothing to do with comfort at all.

    Now you need to direct your answers to refuting what I said rather than fallacy arguments.



    No. I rely on the truth of the situation and the role gays have played in our society and it's development. Now stop making assumptions, adding in some hyperbole and address my statements.
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    Re: Does Same Sex Marriage promote family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I go by the same definition that we as a society follow to this day. Has nothing to do with comfort at all.

    Now you need to direct your answers to refuting what I said rather than fallacy arguments.



    No. I rely on the truth of the situation and the role gays have played in our society and it's development. Now stop making assumptions, adding in some hyperbole and address my statements.
    Frankly I'm surprised the mod team hasn't caught this sock-puppet yet. They're usually pretty good about these things.

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