View Poll Results: Do you trust the federal government to do what's in your best interest

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Thread: A Simple Question -

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Why would you fight with an insurance company? Private insurance is contract based. The contract spells out what will and will not be covered.

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    And the whole world is honest and we all sit around in circles singing happy song. What insurance companies sometimes do is start out denying a claim with the hope that people will be ignorant enough to take their word for it. Worst case the insurance company holds onto their money longer, best case they never pay. Your post is the worst type of naivete.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    The Fed Govt. should look out for what is best for America, ensuring the Constitution is not stepped on, and the security of America. The individual is responsible for their own "best interest", actions, happiness and well being.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And the whole world is honest and we all sit around in circles singing happy song. What insurance companies sometimes do is start out denying a claim with the hope that people will be ignorant enough to take their word for it. Worst case the insurance company holds onto their money longer, best case they never pay. Your post is the worst type of naivete.
    Nasty tonight, are we? Ok. You must be too lazy or not bright enough to look out for your own interests? Of course, being a liberal, that is to be expected.

    Our foundation's law firm frequently deals with denial of claims. If the claim should not have been denied, it usually only takes a letter to get it resolved. They very seldom want to risk a lawsuit.

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And the whole world is honest and we all sit around in circles singing happy song. What insurance companies sometimes do is start out denying a claim with the hope that people will be ignorant enough to take their word for it. Worst case the insurance company holds onto their money longer, best case they never pay. Your post is the worst type of naivete.
    Worst case is the insurer gets poured out in court after paying a gazillion dollars to defend it's position.

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Do you trust the federal government (in its entirety) to do what's in your best interest?

    Why or why not.
    Part of the time.

    The real issue is that they can't seem to agree what *is* the best interest - *how* to see to it or *what* is innapropriate or even *what* their goals are.

    Our government is a great example of what happens when the system is shabbily thrown together an the people in charge are morons.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Nasty tonight, are we? Ok. You must be too lazy or not bright enough to look out for your own interests? Of course, being a liberal, that is to be expected.

    Our foundation's law firm frequently deals with denial of claims. If the claim should not have been denied, it usually only takes a letter to get it resolved. They very seldom want to risk a lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Worst case is the insurer gets poured out in court after paying a gazillion dollars to defend it's position.
    The point you are missing is that it is not going to be denied long enough usually to go to court. But 2 or 3 months of denied disability can be devastating to a family as an example.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To the big govt types, tell me this is reasonable;


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    I know that's not the federal government...yet.
    There are levels of degree to which those of us who support government regulation are willing to accept. It is not a black or white thing. It's like those who want minimal government... they want MINIMAL government, not NO government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Nasty tonight, are we? Ok. You must be too lazy or not bright enough to look out for your own interests? Of course, being a liberal, that is to be expected.

    Our foundation's law firm frequently deals with denial of claims. If the claim should not have been denied, it usually only takes a letter to get it resolved. They very seldom want to risk a lawsuit.

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    Insurance companies typically deny claims either on "technicalities" or for completely bogus reasons. For example, I have a request for medical information on a client sitting in my mailbox as we speak. This is the 4th time they have sent it to me. Each of the other 3 times, I sent them the information that they requested, only to find out, each time, that they changed their fax number, so instead of claims getting it, it went to a different department where it was probably shredded. These are the kinds of games that insurance companies play. One time I responded to a request for information. When I responded and STILL didn't get paid, I enquired why. Turns out that the paperwork they mailed to me for the medical information was THE ORIGINAL and since they didn't have a copy, they could not connect my information to the file. Of course, they neglected to contact me about this until I called them.

    Fighting with insurace companies to get them to pay and or apply appropriate benefits to clients is a daily job for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Because the government is concerned about ALL the people, both as individuals and as a group, not just you, which makes the question far more complex than the way that X Factor answered it.
    I agree with this, but I also think that, in principle, the government is supposed to work in our favor given that our leaders are elected with our vote and removed with our vote. They are supposed to answer to us, therefore, I don't think it's inherently flawed or ignorant to think the government should work in our favor or demand the leaders work for our favor.

    We shouldn't have think the government is naturally against us... we simply don't want the government to restrict us or our rights either. It's not the same thing. I can expect my rights will not be violated and expect my elected leaders do what is in my interest. I think it's pretty simple... at least to understand how it is supposed to work in the minds of the founders (perfect union, justice, domestic tranquility), but in modern times, government itself complicates the above question in part because the voice of the governed is more diverse now.

    Government creates an agency between many people, wanting different things... sometimes wanting to use the government as a vehicle to impose their wills and morals on others or restrict the rights of others. This agency causes us to not trust government, and not trust political foes.. it creates divisiveness in our society.

    Yes, government is a problem... but it's not the problem. The problem is the agency itself and I don't trust other people in society getting a vote in my rights, and getting to vote on what is best for me.

    I stand for everybody to have rights, and I am against using the government to restrict the rights of others.. But unlike some of the founders I don't think rights are natural or inalienable. All rights are privileges the government grants to us, and the government must recognize them before we can exercise our rights freely without punishment (it's only a right, when the gov says so). The social construction of rights exist and must exist to justify the existence of government, and the founders were keen on the philosophy of natural rights... because it fit well into whole idea that government works for you via your vote idea and it naturally should.

    Well, I am not offering an answer... just rambling. It's a complicated question and I don't really agree 100% with the enlightenment philosophy of the founders.

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    A private business has never taken something from me that I didn't voluntarily give to them. The same is not true of the government.
    What does the government take from you? Just your taxes? OMG... America is awful, totalitarian and must be destroyed!! How dare they tax their subjects.

    I have never really understood this mentality and anger about paying taxes... Everybody has to pay a tax, and everyday you buy something... you probably pay a sales tax. And if you support the flat tax, because you think that's more fair... you're still supporting a tax and that isn't going to change your situation with being taxed.

    If you really hate taxes that much you can always denounce your citizenship or become Amish...

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