View Poll Results: Do you trust the federal government to do what's in your best interest

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Thread: A Simple Question -

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, I don't need a business to "care" for me. As far as the govt, I'd rather be left alone than cared for.
    I think we all feel that way until suddenly we have a health crisis and are disabled. Then government disability can be the difference between starving on the street and treading water until the emergency has passed. The same with unemployment insurance. We'd all like to believe that we'll always be able to work and support our families, but what we'd like and what we are likely to experience at some point during our lifetimes are not the same thing.

    Government does have an obligation, in my opinion, to care and assist for those who cannot care for themselves due to circumstances beyond their control. Naturally government only does so because if it doesn't, enough people might get mad and vote some of its components out of office! Government is pragmatic, not altruistic. The main reason government operates on the basis of what it believes is best for the country is because if the country fails, government will find itself out of a job.

    It's all about self-preservation.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Here's the difference. You are the one who decides whether or not you will be 'doing business' with a privately owned entity, correct? Therefore the power to decide what is best for you - is up to you. Profiting from someone is only effective if that someone is willing to pay for said product or service.
    Not necessarily. As a privately owned business, who's focus is profit, a business may do whatever it takes to make that profit, and not disclose what they are doing. This is why I am a strong proponent of industry regulation. Also, there are certainly plenty of situations where I do not have choice, business-wise, or cannot provide a commodity for myself. I can't cook up some aspirin on a moment's notice if I need it.



    They don't make a profit per se, but they do make decisions that impact all of us financially. Again, we don't have a choice in whether or not to 'do business' with the 'institution' of the federal government, now do we.
    We do have a choice of how the institution of the federal government with wich we "do business" looks like. Elections.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not necessarily. As a privately owned business, who's focus is profit, a business may do whatever it takes to make that profit, and not disclose what they are doing. This is why I am a strong proponent of industry regulation. Also, there are certainly plenty of situations where I do not have choice, business-wise, or cannot provide a commodity for myself. I can't cook up some aspirin on a moment's notice if I need it.
    It is also important to realize that "doing business" is not the only way we interact with businesses. The reason California has such strict pollution laws is because of the severe problems the state had with smog. You could not do business with those smog producers, but you where still greatly impacted by them
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The relationship I have with private business is a more equal one.
    No, it's not. That's an illusion. The business's focus is on maximizing their profit regardless of your needs. Very disproportionate.

    It's usually mutually beneficial.
    That's true to some extent, but the mutuality is not equivelent at all.

    They want my money and I want their product.
    And, no matter how much you want or need their product, if you cannot meet their price, you don't get it. See? Disproportionate.

    I don't care if they have my best interest at heart. I'll take care of that.
    Sure you have choices. But if you are aware that they do not have the best interest at heart, why should you trust them. You believe that the government doesn't and you don't trust them.

    The problem with the government is when they decide someone else's best interest matters more than mine.
    The government's job isn't to consider your best interests as an individual. That is not the government's purpose.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post

    The government's job isn't to consider your best interests as an individual. That is not the government's purpose.
    Which is part of the problem with the poll. We don't trust the government to look out for our best interest, but then again, it's not the governments job to and is not what the government does.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    I would say that the government has a collective responsibility, not a responsibility to any particular individual. And I would just like to add that the poll doesn't have enough options for such a complex issue.

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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Looking after my best interests, beyond TJ's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, is not the federal government's job. It's my own.

    It's not that I don't trust it to, I don't want it to.

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    I don't trust anyone to do anything in my best interests besides me and my wife.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Do you trust the federal government (in its entirety) to do what's in your best interest?

    Why or why not.
    Absolutely not.

    Charlie Reese's editorial about the 545 people who run this country is probably old news to most posters, but if you haven't read it, you should: The 545 People Responsible For All Of U.S. Woes

    I think most of these 545 people come to the task of running the Federal government (and thus our lives) with the best of intentions. I think a fair amount of them are Mr Smith's going to Washington. But power corrupts.

    Soon those people are bombarded with "Let's play ball!" and so insulated from reality that they lose sight of the fact that they work for us. We don't work for them. It doesn't take long for them to turn their focus away from what's best for the country to "What's the best way for me to get re-elected."

    And the sell-out begins.
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    Re: A Simple Question -

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Ever fight with an insurance company for payment on coverage? That put me at more risk than the government ever will.
    Honestly can't say I ever have, but I understand what you're trying to say here. Not to turn this into the health care debate, but you know what insurance entity denies more claims than any other? Medicare.
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