View Poll Results: Are These Additional Restrictions on Abortion Funding Going Too Far?

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    We COULD get back into this discussion, but probably wouldn't be a good idea since you were so soundly defeated last time you tried.
    I have no doubt you truly belive that. Tell me, did you ever provide any actual links to your "studies?" The last time I checked you hadn't. BTW, just when does being outnumbered in a discussion by a number of liberals/leftists who demand links but fail to provide any of their own constitute......defeat? My beliefs are my own and not subject to your approval no matter how fond of yourself you may be.


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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    We COULD get back into this discussion, but probably wouldn't be a good idea since you were so soundly defeated last time you tried.
    Yeah I find it quite entertaining when people ignore this fact and like you said to another poster very inaccurately describe something as "any warm body will do"

    Ill never understand why facts and logic are often ignored or met with disdain simply because of bias or a sheep like thought process? Weird

    Its almost as if some poster think ignore facts make them not true?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I have no doubt you truly belive that. Tell me, did you ever provide any actual links to your "studies?" The last time I checked you hadn't.


    Absolutely did. You probably didn't see them because you turned tail and ran. Probably a good choice, as discretion is often the better part of valor.

    BTW, just when does being outnumbered in a discussion by a number of liberals/leftists who demand links but fail to provide any of their own constitute......defeat? My beliefs are my own and not subject to your approval no matter how fond of yourself you may be.
    Your beliefs are not subject to anyone's approval. Doesn't alter that they are inaccurate and have no substantiation. If you want to have them anyway, you certainly have that right.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Because our unemployment would have to be atleast at that(which isn't the case) for your theory to make sense. Because if we didn't have enough workers to supply business with all the jobs our economy provided, and then had to rely on Mexican workers to fill those jobs, then maybe your theory would make sense. But that is not the case, and the cause of illegal immigration is not abortion. It is because our country is better then Mexico.
    In point of fact mexican workers are filling jobs in america. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention.

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It is usually a good idea to NOT inaccurately describe something. You saw Redress's post. THAT is how abstinence is presented in comprehensive sex ed... and that's how I taught it. Prominently. I understand that you would PREFER it to be different, because that would help your position, but your perception is not accurate in this matter.
    I guess my experience in sex ed was a lot like Dutch's (minus the prostitute). I remember abstinance was treated as if it was this outdated joke.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    In point of fact mexican workers are filling jobs in america. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention.

    They are getting jobs in American, I am not denying that, but it is not because of abortion. It is because they will work for less then minimum wage, and because crappy companies will hire them to increase their bottom line.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I guess my experience in sex ed was a lot like Dutch's (minus the prostitute). I remember abstinance was treated as if it was this outdated joke.
    Captain can correct me if Im wrong because I maybe but I believe he was referring more to you saying its bad for sex ed to teach "well we know you are going to do this anyway" and thats what he wanted addressed

    but I could be totally wrong
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    What classes teaches that? I think your giving your wording some home cooking

    Im not familiar with any sex ed class that says well kids we know you gonna do this anyway sooooooo . . . .

    The one I took in school certainly didnt YEARS ago and the one my kid took no doesnt. No of course thats just two but im just saying
    Centrist, I'm just saying, there's a fine line between teaching kids something just in case they have sex and teaching them they're just not normal if they fail to.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I guess my experience in sex ed was a lot like Dutch's (minus the prostitute). I remember abstinance was treated as if it was this outdated joke.
    OK. That's a shame. Abstinence is an important part of any comprehensive sex education program. I haven't taught sex ed. in about 15 years or so, but even nowadays, when I counsel teens, I always include abstinence as an important choice.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They are getting jobs in American, I am not denying that, but it is not because of abortion. It is because they will work for less then minimum wage, and because crappy companies will hire them to increase their bottom line.


    BINGO!
    and they take jobs americans dont want
    and they take temporary jobs
    etc etc
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