View Poll Results: Are These Additional Restrictions on Abortion Funding Going Too Far?

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't disagree with you except that sex ed has been going on for a long time now, it just doesn't seem to be helping, does it?
    The sex ed in our country sucks, and doesn't prepare kids for sexual activity.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I beg to differ. We wouldn't be robbing mexico and central america of it's child bearing young if we could produce enough of our own workers. Our immigration problem is a direct result of abortion.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well that's interesting. You're going to have to put choicers in that box with us, since most of them have said there should be a limit on how far along a baby should be legally aborted. So, explain to me how they too aren't "anti-choice"?
    So, then you agree that the term "pro-abortion" doesn't apply, correct?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The sex ed in our country sucks, and doesn't prepare kids for sexual activity.
    On the contrary, that's exactly what it's doing. Why would we want to promote that?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I beg to differ. We wouldn't be robbing mexico and central america of it's child bearing young if we could produce enough of our own workers. Our immigration problem is a direct result of abortion.
    We aren't robbing Mexico of people, they are coming here because Mexico sucks, and if we made abortion illegal tomorrow, it would have no effect on illegal immigration. Your argument makes no sense.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    AKA pro-life.
    If we are looking at accurate terminology, which some of you seem to be, NO, anti-choice.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't disagree with you except that sex ed has been going on for a long time now, it just doesn't seem to be helping, does it?
    It depends on the demographic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the populations where most abortions are likely to occur (i.e. inner-city urban black) the sex ed isn't quite up to par. If i'm wrong, then perhaps it's economics/poverty that actually plays a greater role and the ability to acquire contraceptives. I actually remember awhile back Barack was pro-abstinence education in some specific school district, i'm not sure where exactly. The moral of the story is, if you get raped I have sympathy for you, and perhaps in some extreme cases I would support federal dollars for funding abortions. But if you're pregnant cuz you like to ****, then ur **** outta luck. That's the way I believe it should be.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    On the contrary, that's exactly what it's doing. Why would we want to promote that?
    No it doesn't, we need to overhaul our sexual education system from teaching abstinence only to a comprehensive sex education where they are taught how to use condoms, birth control, etc, and be given access to these things. That is what is going to reduce abortions, and STI's.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Or immigrants. Personally I'm not sure if having a kid is such a good idea, maybe I'll change my mind when I get older.
    Which brings us back to the fact you are a liberal.

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    In Utah, where more than two-thirds of residents are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 92 children are born each year for every 1,000 women, the highest fertility rate in the nation. By contrast Vermont the first to embrace gay unions has the nation's lowest rate, producing 51 children per 1,000 women.

    Similarly, in Europe today, the people least likely to have children are those most likely to hold progressive views of the world. For instance, do you distrust the army and other institutions and are you prone to demonstrate against them? Then, according to polling data assembled by demographers Ron Lesthaeghe and Johan Surkyn, you are less likely to be married and have kids or ever to get married and have kids. Do you find soft drugs, homosexuality and euthanasia acceptable? Do you seldom, if ever, attend church? Europeans who answer affirmatively to such questions are far more likely to live alone or be in childless, cohabiting unions than are those who answer negatively.

    This correlation between secularism, individualism and low fertility portends a vast change in modern societies. In the USA, for example, nearly 20% of women born in the late 1950s are reaching the end of their reproductive lives without having children. The greatly expanded childless segment of contemporary society, whose members are drawn disproportionately from the feminist and countercultural movements of the 1960s and '70s, will leave no genetic legacy. Nor will their emotional or psychological influence on the next generation compare with that of people who did raise children.......
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I personally think the whole abortion debate is too focused on symptoms and not on causes. If you want to stop 50 million babies from being killed, you should first of all think about how to stop people from getting unwanted pregnancies in the first place, eliminating poverty, increasing sex education and/or abstinence, etc. People like to focus on the most emotionally-charged issues but nobody feels like addressing the root of the problem. Just like immigration, people like to talk about illegals taking away jobs, building fences, increasing ICE raids, but the root of the problem is that Mexico sucks. Nobody seems to be talking about these things, instead just focusing on the surface.
    I also think that solutions need to be focused on, like if abortions are far more limited than they are, currently, how will folks deal with the huge amount of potential adoptions, a foster care system that alreadly operates poorly, now receiving many more unwanted chidren, potential abuse issues stemming from children who are unwanted, and financial issues around families with children they cannot afford. People talk too much about "saving lives" but nothing about what to do after that life is saved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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