View Poll Results: Are These Additional Restrictions on Abortion Funding Going Too Far?

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What nasty lable? Are you trying to argue that Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary and dictionary.com are wrong? Why do you people oppose being called pro-aboriton when you support legalized abortion?
    Why do "pro-life" people prefer that label to "anti-abortion rights"?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    However that is not the definition of pro-abortion.
    We're all just arguing over inane semantics at this point. Your Star has made her position quite clear, and let's talk about something substantive rather than semantic.

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Trying to label some one instead of debating their points does not make you a good debater. The opposite in fact.
    Part of debate is presenting facts. Going "Oh I do not like this definition so I am just going to make up my own" is not a good debate tactic.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Trying to change definitions does not change the fact you are pro-abortion.
    It's not my fault that you can't understand what I am saying to you is that I don't personally support abortion, and that your definition doesn't trump my personal beliefs.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Part of debate is presenting facts. Going "Oh I do not like this definition so I am just going to make up my own" is not a good debate tactic.
    That is not what she is doing. She is saying "this definition does not precisely represent my beliefs so I am going to explain them properly". You have yet to in any way actually address her position, you have simply tried to label her and evade debating her by bringing in irrelevant things,
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why do "pro-life" people prefer that label to "anti-abortion rights"?
    I could care less if you call me pro-life or anti-abortion.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's not my fault that you can't understand what I am saying to you is that I don't personally support abortion, and that your definition doesn't trump my personal beliefs.
    That is not my definition. I do not own the dictionary companies nor am I on any board who decided what word means what.It is a fact that pro-abortion means one who supports legalized abortion. That definition does not say that you have to run out and have one or recommend that every one get one.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is not my definition. I do not own the dictionary companies nor am I on any board who decided what word means what.It is a fact that pro-abortion means one who supports legalized abortion. That definition does not say that you have to run out and have one or recommend that every one get one.
    The only thing you are demonstrating here is that you don't have the capacity to understand nuance, and only see the world in black, and white. Also you are assuming why I am pro-choice is because I think abortion should be a right, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why do "pro-life" people prefer that label to "anti-abortion rights"?
    For the same reason "pro-choice" people prefer that to "pro-abortion." It's inherently better to be "pro" something and "anti" something.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Part of debate is presenting facts. Going "Oh I do not like this definition so I am just going to make up my own" is not a good debate tactic.
    FACT: Your Star has stated that she believes abortion should be legalized.
    FACT: Your star has stated that she believes federal money should be made available, in certain cases, to fund abortions.
    FACT: Your Star has stated that she personally would never get one (and i'm pretty sure she probably won't need one unless she wants to do artificial insemination or something like that).

    Let's just start there, rather than whatever label or name you want to apply to her position, because names are just that: names. Let's start with reality first.

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