View Poll Results: Are These Additional Restrictions on Abortion Funding Going Too Far?

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    My cultural norms? I live in one of the reddest areas of the country
    If you support abortion it's "your cultural norms." not mine. Wherever you currently reside.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Yeah, I must say most all the hard-core conservatives are pushy and mean.
    I'm neither mean nor pushy. In fact I work with small children. How mean could I be?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted other. Only when multiple doctors have confirmed that a vaginal birth or c-section at any point past a 40% viability rate will kill the mother should the mother be allowed to use tax payer money to kill her child. If they are going to allow rape as exception that gets funded by tax payer dollars it should be only after the accused has been convicted and sentenced to prison. Face it aboritonists are not the most moral people on the planet so nothing would stop a cheap or broke bitch from falsely claiming rape to get tax payers to pay for her abortion. Just so people know where I stand on the abortion issue I believe it should only be legal when multiple doctors(preferable pro-life doctors) have confirmed that a vaginal birth or c-section at any point past a 40% viability rate will kill the mother.
    We needed some really stupid rhetoric and childish name calling in this thread. Thank you so much for supplying it.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its pretty unfortunate that people have to be that way, but all we can do is be better and take the high road



    You can interpret my experiences this way if you wish. Personally, I think its anger, but I think it has more to do with the economy than it does politics. (well a combination of a bad economy and then being lied to as to why due to outfits like fox news punditry)
    I'm neither economically disadvantages nor badly informed. I listen to a variety of sources of information including european ones tho I also do make it a point to listen to fox. I can count on fox to air those stories I'm interested in unlike the mainstream media that normally caters to american liberals/leftists.

    In regards to the economy arkansas isn't doing too badly in the unemployment area, at least when compared to liberal bastions like california, rhoad island, oregan, and michigan.


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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We needed some really stupid rhetoric and childish name calling in this thread. Thank you so much for supplying it.
    I found no "stupid rhetoric or childish name calling" in that post. I noticed you didn't call the giant noodle for calling conservatives "mean and pushy." Why would that be? Wouldn't that qualify as childish name calling?

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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    For the last time pro-choice does not equal pro-abortion. I am certainly pro-choice, and I am most certainly not pro-abortion.

    For the last time pro-choice does equals pro-abortion. Are you going to argue that a dictionary is wrong?
    Pro abortion | Define Pro abortion at Dictionary.com

    pro·abor·tion definition
    Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən/
    Function: adj
    : favoring the legalization of abortion


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prolife
    pro-life definition
    Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ˈlīf/
    Function: adj
    : ANTIABORTION

    pro-life
       /proʊˈlaɪf/ Show Spelled[proh-lahyf] Show IPA
    –adjective
    opposed to legalized abortion; right-to-life.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 01-29-11 at 02:16 PM.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We needed some really stupid rhetoric and childish name calling in this thread. Thank you so much for supplying it.
    What was stupid rhetoric and childish name calling in that post?
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    For the last time pro-choice does equals pro-abortion.
    Pro abortion | Define Pro abortion at Dictionary.com

    pro·abor·tion definition
    Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən/
    Function: adj
    : favoring the legalization of abortion
    Yes, I favor the legalization of abortion, I do not want to see it illegal. But I will not have one myself(unless my life is in danger), nor will I personally suggest abortion. I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, I know a 13 year old cannot consent, I stated that already. Statutory rape can be(and frequently is) with some one too young to give consent. If a 13 year old gets molested, it's rape pure and simple even if she says yes. Frequently this is with some one in the household. Court cases frequently take over 9 months to resolve. Now who is paying while the molester is being tried?
    The molester/rapist pays. His assets are seized, his accounts are tapped for payment via a court order. If he has no property, has no assets, has nothing - then the state "loans" the money and should the molester be found guilty, he pays the state back the money required for the abortion from jail. If the debt is not satisifed during his jail time, any future assets or pay is garnished to satisfy the debt. If he dies prior to the debt being paid in full, the state forgives the remaining amount - and the taxpayers have the burden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Further, the question is not about who should pay, or if federal funding should never be used, it is with the assumption that federal funding is now illegal for abortions except under limited circumstances, and these circumstances are now going to be made even more limited, and no where is any one going to pay as you suggest. In essence, you are answering a question I am not asking.
    And that's simply fine - federal funds should not be used, and it should be made more limited. Those who perpetrate a rape in various circumstances must pay, as I've already outlined.
    Last edited by Ockham; 01-29-11 at 02:18 PM.
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    Re: Is This Going Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What was stupid rhetoric and childish name calling in that post?
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted other. Only when multiple doctors have confirmed that a vaginal birth or c-section at any point past a 40% viability rate will kill the mother should the mother be allowed to use tax payer money to kill her child. If they are going to allow rape as exception that gets funded by tax payer dollars it should be only after the accused has been convicted and sentenced to prison. Face it aboritonists are not the most moral people on the planet so nothing would stop a cheap or broke bitch from falsely claiming rape to get tax payers to pay for her abortion. Just so people know where I stand on the abortion issue I believe it should only be legal when multiple doctors(preferable pro-life doctors) have confirmed that a vaginal birth or c-section at any point past a 40% viability rate will kill the mother.
    Note the bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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