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    Re: Respect.

    Everyone should be entitled to basic respect, unless and until they prove themselves to be unworthy of respect.

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    wow, way to overreact there.

    There's a difference between respect and courtesy. Even though I may not respect someone, I always try to treat them courteously. Clearly that's lost on you though.
    In the same way you seem to be arguing that posters are conflating the words "respect" and "courtesy," you could be construed as conflating the terms "respect" and "admiration." I would say admiration must be earned but respect should be the default.

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How do you know that one of those people that I made up in the OP isn't a serial killer?
    Of course, I do not...
    But, then, I'd argue that intolerance and disrespect create criminals..
    in other words , being judgmental when the man is a complete unknown does not, IMO, work.....
    After the serial killer nails me then he will lose the "basic" respect...

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    In the same way you seem to be arguing that posters are conflating the words "respect" and "courtesy," you could be construed as conflating the terms "respect" and "admiration." I would say admiration must be earned but respect should be the default.
    That's just an argument of semantics though. You can call the terms whatever you want, but there's a difference between the politeness with which you treat a stranger and the sort of respect you have for a friend.
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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Name: Amy Lynne Bower
    Age: 35
    Occupation: Hair Dresser
    Race: Black

    Name: Jose Chavez Gonzales
    Age: 20
    Occupation: College Student
    Race: Hispanic

    Name: Hun Lee
    Age: 67
    Occupation: Retired
    Race: Asian

    Name: John Smith
    Age: 44
    Occupation: None
    Race: White

    Name: Mohammed Ackbar
    Age: 51
    Occupation: Store Clerk
    Race: Arab

    Name: You insert someone you know.

    This is all you know of these people. Do they deserve your respect?

    There is no "other" option in the Poll because its a straight yes/no anwer. With the exception of the person that you know personally you either respect them all or you don't respect any of them.
    Respect is a religious obligation.
    If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.

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    Re: Respect.

    I treat everyone with respect, indiscriminately, until they show me that they don't warrant it.

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Respect is a religious obligation.
    I'm not religious, but I believe that all human beings are deserving of a minimal level of respect.

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    You've got to show it to get it.

    All strangers are respected by me until they prove otherwise.
    I'm not this way.

    People have to earn my respect for them. I don't give it away by default. If I did, it would detract from the value of my respect.

    However, I am polite to strangers. I try to be sympathetic to their needs and not rude to them. However, politeness is different from respect, and I don't think respect is something I can, nor should, give to a total stranger.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I'm not this way.

    People have to earn my respect for them. I don't give it away by default. If I did, it would detract from the value of my respect.

    However, I am polite to strangers. I try to be sympathetic to their needs and not rude to them. However, politeness is different from respect, and I don't think respect is something I can, nor should, give to a total stranger.
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    Re: Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You seem to be having trouble with the concept that I'm putting forward, so maybe an example will help. I'll use DP since it is a common frame of reference for us all.

    Before today you'd never made much of an impression on me one way or the other, so you make a passable approximation of a random person off the street.

    Before today I didn't respect you because I didn't know you. However I treated you courteously here on the forum. Even if I disagreed with you, I did it in a polite manner.

    Now, on the other hand, you've shown me that you're a rude little pissant who insults people for no reason. Now that I have some measure of you as a person, I can determine that you are definitely not worthy of my respect.

    Despite my disrespect for you, I would still treat you courteously if you treated me the same way. Since you haven't, I don't even feel the need to do that.

    Get it now?
    This all started when you couldn't take a joke. Couldn't expect that from someone who doesn't know if you don't respect, you get wrecked.
    :muffled giggles:

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