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Who Won The Space Race?

Who Won The Space Race?


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The Russians won the space race by starting it. Because before then people were just fumbling around on the surface with no greater regards to space exploration like a bunch of retarded cave men. We attempt to explore space to beat the soviets in an empty spending race. Now the USSR is gone. So wtf now, the moon again? Or spend money to go to mars for the sake of scientific data?
 
Well, the space race continues. But now its not the same as before, not the same contestants and not the same ideology driving it except perhaps for a few countries.
 
ISS would not be there without Russia. It could easily have been there without America. But as stated before, I think no one won the space race.
 
And you dont think we are still all a bunch of retarded cave men in space?

What grand accomplishment is there? What kind of space technology do we have?

In my opinion the only useful and advanced space technology we have is satellites.
 
This is a subject dear to my heart, so I'll give it the truest answer possible: The space race never ended, and never will end so long as humanity survives. It will be an unbounded competition of cultures, political ideologies, economic systems, and individual imaginations for the future of the species, and both the scope of the competition and the identities of the competitors will never stop evolving. In the distant future, questions of which terrestrial continent (let alone nation-state) an emigrant strain emerged from will seem as trivial as which villages in Tanzania bore the greater number of primordial humans.

As to practical questions, Russia did a better job of building a robust orbital infrastructure with the Soyuz and Mir. The United States did a better job of inspiring the world and making the space race a general human endeavor by putting human beings on the Moon, even though the achievement was allowed to lapse. In the present time, we are far ahead of the rest of the world in the next wave of development - the advent of low-cost suborbital and orbital commercial services - and we continue to be the only individual country with probes in the outer solar system (though ESA often collaborates with us on those missions).
 
I would say HGTV beat DYI in the space race.
 
50% obesity FTW
 
That single act trumped the Soviet achievement of sending the first man into space eight years earlier. But what might have happened if the Soviet Union had got to the Moon first?
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BBC News - What if the Soviet Union had beaten the US to the Moon?[/url][/

As pointed out earlier, that is a HYPOTHETICAL article.

Focus on facts, one that in the west people seem to think that the country with the greatest achievements in aeronautics = space race winner.
Fact: The soviets won the space race.

Eg) Using a hypothetical analogy as you seem to like them:
What if in a few years someone beats Michael Phelps in his 2008 records, does this mean they won the 2008 Beijing Olympics? NO, it only means they did better in a LATER event.
Same with the Soviets, the USSR made it to space FIRST, therefore the Soviets won the SPACE RACE.

A few more facts:
- The USSR got the space probe into space first (Sputnik).
- The USSR sent first a man into orbit around Earth (Yuri Gagarin)
- The USSR even got to the Moon first with an unmanned probe (Luna 2) this was in 1959 (10 years before the US made it to the moon)
- First probe to Venus
- First space station in 1971 (some on which still in use by the International community)
- Mars 2, first object to land in Mars
- First woman and first black person put in space by USSR

These however will help you measure who accomplished the most in aeronautics (which as I pointed out earlier, is debatable), however who won the space race is a fact, the first one to make it into space.
 
I'm one of 3 who marked "idk" because, quite simply, the space race is not over. Yeah, for 40 years we have been the only contenders in this competition, but asking "Who won the space race," is pretty much just like asking "Who won basketball?" There's a LOT of space out there. We, as a species, have gone to the moon a few times. As great an achievement as that was, it was only... well... one giant leap for mankind. If we're to survive the long run, we've got tocolonize the galaxy. One giant leap, check, we've still got a galaxy to cross. And if you think the rest of the world looks up to the night sky and thinks "Damn. America got that one," you're delusional.

...China plans on building the world’s most powerful rocket, capable of launching a staggering 130 tons to orbit.

A few weeks ago, NASA announced the White House NASA budget request for FY 2012 (PDF), stating that $1.8 billion dollars be spent on designing a new rocket system to replace the Shuttle (and the canceled Constellation program). The lift capability specifically mentioned in that budget outline? "100 – 130 tons".

Let me make a few points here.

1) China, I think, is quite capable of following through on this. They’ve made a lot of progress in just a few years. They’ve put men in space, launched two successful missions to the Moon, plan on an unmanned lunar landing in the next few years, and an unmanned sample return mission after that. This new rocket — as powerful as a Saturn V — would be quite capable of landing humans on the Moon.
Rocket envy | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine


So yeah, we landed on the moon first. We walked around, took a joy ride, hit a few golf balls. That doesn't sound like a space race win to me.


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The Saturn V (pronounced "Saturn Five") was an American man-rated expendable rocket used by NASA's Apollo and Skylab programs from 1967 until 1973. A multistage liquid-fueled booster, NASA launched 13 Saturn Vs from the Kennedy Space Center, Florida with no loss of crew or payload. It remains the largest and most powerful launch vehicle ever brought to operational status from a height, weight and payload standpoint.

Wikipedia: Saturn V
 
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As pointed out earlier, that is a HYPOTHETICAL article.

LMAO! Hypothetical or not, it still states FACTS.

Focus on facts, one that in the west people seem to think that the country with the greatest achievements in aeronautics = space race winner.
Fact: The soviets won the space race.

No. The former Soviet Union won the "race into space" as the article points of matter of factly. It also points out the USA put a man on the moon trumping anything that came before and declaing victory for the same country.

Those are the facts. <---- Oh look I can bold words too!

Eg) Using a hypothetical analogy as you seem to like them:
What if in a few years someone beats Michael Phelps in his 2008 records, does this mean they won the 2008 Beijing Olympics? NO, it only means they did better in a LATER event.
Same with the Soviets, the USSR made it to space FIRST, therefore the Soviets won the SPACE RACE.

AGAIN. The cold war and the space race are one complete item. With the ending of the cold war, no more race was left. End of story.

A few more facts:
- The USSR got the space probe into space first (Sputnik).
- The USSR sent first a man into orbit around Earth (Yuri Gagarin)
- The USSR even got to the Moon first with an unmanned probe (Luna 2) this was in 1959 (10 years before the US made it to the moon)
- First probe to Venus
- First space station in 1971 (some on which still in use by the International community)
- Mars 2, first object to land in Mars
- First woman and first black person put in space by USSR

That's all well and good, but means little now. We have gone far beyond that.

The US crossed the finish line first by grabbing the Moon, and is still around to enjoy the benefits, lol. Not so much for the Soviet Union. Although Russia is doing OK.


These however will help you measure who accomplished the most in aeronautics (which as I pointed out earlier, is debatable), however who won the space race is a fact, the first one to make it into space.

Yes it is a fact that it was the US even according to the BBC, lol.


The Americans won the race to the Moon when Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface in 1969.

That single act trumped the Soviet achievement of sending the first man into space eight years earlier. But what might have happened if the Soviet Union had got to the Moon first?

The first manned lunar landing was a triumph for Nasa, and when the Americans won the Space Race, they also sounded its death knell.
- BBC News - What if the Soviet Union had beaten the US to the Moon?[/[/QUOTE]
 
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I'm one of 3 who marked "idk" because, quite simply, the space race is not over. Yeah, for 40 years we have been the only contenders in this competition, but asking "Who won the space race," is pretty much just like asking "Who won basketball?" There's a LOT of space out there. We, as a species, have gone to the moon a few times. As great an achievement as that was, it was only... well... one giant leap for mankind. If we're to survive the long run, we've got tocolonize the galaxy. One giant leap, check, we've still got a galaxy to cross. And if you think the rest of the world looks up to the night sky and thinks "Damn. America got that one," you're delusional.


Rocket envy | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine


So yeah, we landed on the moon first. We walked around, took a joy ride, hit a few golf balls. That doesn't sound like a space race win to me.


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The Saturn V (pronounced "Saturn Five") was an American man-rated expendable rocket used by NASA's Apollo and Skylab programs from 1967 until 1973. A multistage liquid-fueled booster, NASA launched 13 Saturn Vs from the Kennedy Space Center, Florida with no loss of crew or payload. It remains the largest and most powerful launch vehicle ever brought to operational status from a height, weight and payload standpoint.

Wikipedia: Saturn V

Thanks! Finally one who understands it.. No one won, a multi team tournament competition where a few teams scored a goal in their first matches. That is not a winner of the space race.

And...
Dont forget that NAZI technology accomplished all that for America, not American technology.
 
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Thanks! Finally one who understands it.. No one won, a multi team tournament competition where a few teams scored a goal in their first matches. That is not a winner of the space race.

And...
Dont forget that NAZI technology accomplished all that for America, not American technology.

It was 100% American as much as the Soviet program was. Or should we give all credit for space travle to the Nazi's?
 
Those are the facts. <---- Oh look I can bold words too!
This is called trolling.

AGAIN. The cold war and the space race are one complete item. With the ending of the cold war, no more race was left. End of story.
According to you, now tell me do you have a Phd in history to back up this argument? This is why you're getting so many replies from people, because you are not unbiased. If you want to say the race space is not over yet, then I agree no body has yet won it.


The US crossed the finish line first by grabbing the Moon.
Up above you said the cold war and space race was one, this shows how uninformed and biased you are, if this was true then the race would have been over at the collapse of the USSR not when the USA landed on the moon. POINT MADE, you're biased and not true to facts.

Yes it is a fact that it was the US even according to the BBC, lol.
Again, the race was extended by some westerners, this is why I sent you the 1961 article, clearly stating the race had been won by the soviets. I will post the link again so you can see the date of the article.
BBC ON THIS DAY | 12 | 1961: Soviets win space race

Biased answers, lacking in knowledge, and trolling only make arguments weaker.

You're doing a good job at helping everyone here vote. In my first post the ratio USA to USSR was 9:2, now its 52:42%
 
This is called trolling.

And this is called a personal attack.

According to you, now tell me do you have a Phd in history to back up this argument?

Don't need it. Have an artivle from the BBC. :mrgreen:

This is why you're getting so many replies from people, because you are not unbiased. If you want to say the race space is not over yet, then I agree no body has yet won it.

It was over with the death of the Soviet Union. Any questions? Or should I repeat it again for the 4th time?

Up above you said the cold war and space race was one, this shows how uninformed and biased you are, if this was true then the race would have been over at the collapse of the USSR not when the USA landed on the moon. POINT MADE, you're biased and not true to facts.

No I said "one complete item" in context meaning they where part of the same whole. Without the cold war no space race would have existed.

As for the rest, who cares?

Again, the race was extended by some westerners, this is why I sent you the 1961 article, clearly stating the race had been won by the soviets. I will post the link again so you can see the date of the article.
BBC ON THIS DAY | 12 | 1961: Soviets win space race

I have seen the article many times now. It is from 61, mine is from now. No one extended anything except you. The race into space is not the space race, period.

Biased answers, lacking in knowledge, and trolling only make arguments weaker.

This is not a personal attack or trolling, lol. :lol:

You're doing a good job at helping everyone here vote. In my first post the ratio USA to USSR was 9:2, now its 52:42%

It was close from the begining. 9:2 :roll:
 
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It was close from the begining. 9:2 :roll:

Well it seems that regardless of what you argue you cannot longer prove whether the USA has won the space race or not.
Who had the lead in the 60's, 70's, or 80's, highly debatable. However by the CURRENT poll ratio is about 1:1. Despite what the current poll ratio might tell, the sad truth is what it is: the USA has officially dropped out of the space race by closing its space program. The USA will now rely on Russian technology and facilities to do in space research.

So who won the space race? as of today, not the USA.

BBC News - Shuttle makes final touchdown to end US space programme

From article: "Nasa will rely on the Russians to ferry its people to and from the International Space Station (ISS)."

These are the unbiased facts.
 
Well it seems that regardless of what you argue you cannot longer prove whether the USA has won the space race or not.
Who had the lead in the 60's, 70's, or 80's, highly debatable. However by the CURRENT poll ratio is about 1:1. Despite what the current poll ratio might tell, the sad truth is what it is: the USA has officially dropped out of the space race by closing its space program. The USA will now rely on Russian technology and facilities to do in space research.

So who won the space race? as of today, not the USA.

BBC News - Shuttle makes final touchdown to end US space programme

From article: "Nasa will rely on the Russians to ferry its people to and from the International Space Station (ISS)."

These are the unbiased facts.

Where have you been the last 20 years? The space race has been over for a long time. Soviet Russia no longer exists, so no real race.

Jesus man get a clue.

No one has responded to this since May 3rd.

Moronic post at best.
 
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Some Russians idolize Stalin today. Who can tell with them? Just a guess. Or trolling. "highly debatable in the 80s", haha.
 
The "Space Race" was the 'race' to get the moon.
The answer to the question is, well, obvious.
 
In this case the USA moved the finish line after it failed to reach the original finish line first.

Russians made it to space first. On the race to space, Russians got there first. That doesn't sit well in the middle of the cold war, we can't let those godless commies win, so obviously the space race should be the first to the moon not the first to space.

Its like two brothers in a race to the house. They make a dash for it and for once the younger brother wins, grabbing the door and going in first before the older brother. Not wanting to let his younger brother win the older one yells out "Its the first one that gets to the couch in the living room!" and weaves his way through the house quicker than his younger sibling to land solidly on the couch going "Beat you again".

The younger brother obviously won the race to the house, so the older one switched the goal posts to allow him his own chance to "win" the race.

Saying we moved the goal post, in that context, would be a massive understatement. It was basically a whole new race, one that made the first one look like a joke. It would be like comparing a bottle rocket to a cruise missile.
 
Well it seems that regardless of what you argue you cannot longer prove whether the USA has won the space race or not.
The other day, while driving my T/A some punk in a rice-burning buzz-bomb pulled up next to me at a light and threw me a few revs. I looked over, smiled at him and shook my head. He repeated his request; after the a third time, I finally gave him the 'go' sign.

The light turned. Tires squealed. The buzz-bomb was blown away.
(Like you'd expect something else - did you not see the T/A 8.2 on the shaker?)

About 1/3 mile down, I lifted - the buzz-bumb blew past me, and 'beat' be to the next light.

In much the same way, the US was 'beat' in the space race.

:roll:
 
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