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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I actually just looked it up and it seems it "could" be interpreted that way because the Nazi German space agency decided to move to America to get positions at NASA and they were a huge part of NASA's team for the moon and the launch of the Saturn rockets for the Apollo Lunar Program.
    After world war 2, a group of German rocket scientists led by Wernher von Braun surrendered to the US army. They were taken back to the US and put to work designing missiles for nuclear weapon delivery systems. Von braun pointed out that some of the missile systems they were working on could be used to launch satellites, but until the Russians succeeded in launching the first satellite President Eisenhower refused to let them try.

    The national origin of the scientists is irrelevant as they worked for the US at that point.
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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    No, you're not allowed to re-write history and make such blatant lies.
    The blatant lie you talk about is is a fact, if you don't know history is your problem. "race to space" that is who gets to space first.
    "race to the moon" that is who gets to the moon first.

    "race to space" was won by the USSR as I posted a link from the BBC.

    In case you don't know what the BBC is, it is the most reliable news broadcasting corporation in the world. The article is from 1961.

    Who won space exploration overall? thats debatable, not who won the space race.

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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    No one has won yet, the freaking finish line is light years away.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    After world war 2, a group of German rocket scientists led by Wernher von Braun surrendered to the US army. They were taken back to the US and put to work designing missiles for nuclear weapon delivery systems. Von braun pointed out that some of the missile systems they were working on could be used to launch satellites, but until the Russians succeeded in launching the first satellite President Eisenhower refused to let them try.

    The national origin of the scientists is irrelevant as they worked for the US at that point.
    The Russians had captured their own german rocketeers, too.

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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglestar View Post
    The blatant lie you talk about is is a fact, if you don't know history is your problem. "race to space" that is who gets to space first.
    "race to the moon" that is who gets to the moon first.

    "race to space" was won by the USSR as I posted a link from the BBC.

    In case you don't know what the BBC is, it is the most reliable news broadcasting corporation in the world. The article is from 1961.

    Who won space exploration overall? thats debatable, not who won the space race.
    The Mayor didn't expect you to admit you lied, it's true.

    Meanwhile, the Space Race, as it was defined in the Sixties, was the race to put the first man on the moon. The Soviets lost that one.

    While you're falsely claiming the "space race" was over in 1961, the fact of the matter was the the US, by your definintion, wasn't in the running at that time. There was no "race" in progress when Laika the dog was poisoned by her Soviet flight controllers (it was the humane thing to do, she wasn't coming back down). The "race" to put "men in space" wasn't even a contest, that was like calling a drag event down Colorado Boulevard between a Corvette and a Chevette a race, when the Chevette driver was busy digging in his glove box for a smoke when the light turned green and barely noticed the 'vette in the first place.

    The Space Race was the race to the moon, when both parties were aware of the objective and both were working to achieve it with the awareness that a competition was in progress. The Russians certainly thought they were in a race to the moon.

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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No one has won yet, the freaking finish line is light years away.
    No. The finish line is 225,000 miles away. The nation that controls the moon's water controls the moon. The nation that controls the moon controls all the planets in the Solar System.

    The Earth is one of eight planets.

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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    No. The finish line is 225,000 miles away. The nation that controls the moon's water controls the moon. The nation that controls the moon controls all the planets in the Solar System.

    The Earth is one of eight planets.
    How do you figure? First of all, how does one control the moon, and then how does that allow you to dominate the rest of the solar system?
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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglestar View Post
    The blatant lie you talk about is is a fact, if you don't know history is your problem. "race to space" that is who gets to space first.
    "race to the moon" that is who gets to the moon first.

    "race to space" was won by the USSR as I posted a link from the BBC.

    In case you don't know what the BBC is, it is the most reliable news broadcasting corporation in the world. The article is from 1961.

    Who won space exploration overall? thats debatable, not who won the space race.
    The BBC has some issues then...

    The Americans won the race to the Moon when Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface in 1969.

    That single act trumped the Soviet achievement of sending the first man into space eight years earlier. But what might have happened if the Soviet Union had got to the Moon first?

    The first manned lunar landing was a triumph for Nasa, and when the Americans won the Space Race, they also sounded its death knell.
    - BBC News - What if the Soviet Union had beaten the US to the Moon?
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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

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    The BBC has some issues then...

    The Americans won the race to the Moon when Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface in 1969.

    That single act trumped the Soviet achievement of sending the first man into space eight years earlier. But what might have happened if the Soviet Union had got to the Moon first?

    The first manned lunar landing was a triumph for Nasa, and when the Americans won the Space Race, they also sounded its death knell.
    - BBC News - What if the Soviet Union had beaten the US to the Moon?
    Well said by the BBC, your fish brain didn't read properly: I will write it again so you see the difference: "The Americans won the race to the Moon"
    Not the race to space.

    The issues are in your reading skill, not the BBC.

    Like I said in my last posting:
    The race to the space was won by the USSR
    The race to the moon was won by the USA (if the USSR competed, otherwise there was no race)

    Who won the OVERALL space exploration achievements to date, that is debatable.

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    Re: Who Won The Space Race?

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglestar View Post
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    Well said by the BBC, your fish brain didn't read properly: I will write it again so you see the difference: "The Americans won the race to the Moon"
    Not the race to space.

    The issues are in your reading skill, not the BBC.

    Like I said in my last posting:
    The race to the space was won by the USSR
    The race to the moon was won by the USA (if the USSR competed, otherwise there was no race)

    Who won the OVERALL space exploration achievements to date, that is debatable.
    It's funny that I even highlighted the places in the article (with source link) from the BBC that say...

    The Americans won the race to the Moon when Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface in 1969.

    The first manned lunar landing was a triumph for Nasa, and when the Americans won the Space Race, they also sounded its death knell. - BBC News - What if the Soviet Union had beaten the US to the Moon?

    I pointed out the BBC has issues in that both story's say the opposite from the exact same source.

    And you say I have a reading comprehension problem?
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