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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    Well that depends, is Obama still allowing people to be tortured?Allowing prisoners to be packed into cattle trucks and shot into a mass grave? If so then yes I would say he is but as far as I know he hasn't so I wont label him yet. But then again the fact that he even is still continuing these stupid wars makes him almost as bad as Bush, and Bush was a war criminal.

    War Crimes and the White House: The Bush Administration's Cov... - Video
    Dasht-i-Leili massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Curious. Did Bush pack those people into those trucks and shoot them? Did American troops?

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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    You libs have got to bring Bush into everything.
    War itself is criminal...As is ,IMO, a disrespect of others.

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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Curious. Did Bush pack those people into those trucks and shoot them? Did American troops?
    To even think than any American President is criminal is "not so good"
    This silliness belongs in the sewer, maybe the basement.

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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Curious. Did Bush pack those people into those trucks and shoot them? Did American troops?
    Aw ok I see were your going with this and I think that argument falls short because everyone else when debating about Stalin or Hitler always brings up " O well they killed so many people" but nobaody ever says " well did Hitler kill those people or was it German troops?" But you could repley "well Hitler gave the order and so in a way he did kill all those people" Now no Bush did not literaly pack these people in and shoot them but theres no way he didn't know about and he did nothing to stop and/or condem the people who did. For all I know he could have ordered this but we don't know that he did so I wont go down that road, but Bush had to have known and he did nothing I'd say that makes him somewhat liable ya know being commander and cheif and all at the time.
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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    Aw ok I see were your going with this and I think that argument falls short because everyone else when debating about Stalin or Hitler always brings up " O well they killed so many people" but nobaody ever says " well did Hitler kill those people or was it German troops?" But you could repley "well Hitler gave the order and so in a way he did kill all those people" Now no Bush did not literaly pack these people in and shoot them but theres no way he didn't know about and he did nothing to stop and/or condem the people who did. For all I know he could have ordered this but we don't know that he did so I wont go down that road, but Bush had to have known and he did nothing I'd say that makes him somewhat liable ya know being commander and cheif and all at the time.
    From the wiki article you posted it was Dostum and the Northern Alliance who did it. It was a case of an erstwhile ally gone crazy. I highly doubt Bush ordered him to do it, or even knew about it until after the fact.

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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    Well that depends, is Obama still allowing people to be tortured?Allowing prisoners to be packed into cattle trucks and shot into a mass grave? If so then yes I would say he is but as far as I know he hasn't so I wont label him yet. But then again the fact that he even is still continuing these stupid wars makes him almost as bad as Bush, and Bush was a war criminal.

    War Crimes and the White House: The Bush Administration's Cov... - Video
    Dasht-i-Leili massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    (Links are for those of you who didn't know about the Dasht-i-Leili massacre.)
    Actuallly, torture does continue.

    (Please note that their is a link inside that article which leads to more in-depth info)
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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    To even think than any American President is criminal is "not so good"
    This silliness belongs in the sewer, maybe the basement.
    On the contrary. I think many Presidents in the past have done things that can totally be considered illegal or criminal. Just look at the course of US foreign policy in this last century. No international body is capable of enforcing international law and holding such people accountable.

    However to blame Bush for the Dasht-i-Leili Massacre is rather absurd imo.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 01-26-11 at 01:11 PM.

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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The war criminals are our enemies who hide in and amongst civilians as a military strategy.
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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    On the contrary. I think many Presidents in the past have done things that can totally be considered illegal or criminal. Just look at the course of US foreign policy in this last century. No international body is capable of enforcing international law and holding such people accountable.

    However to blame Bush of the Dasht-i-Leili Massacre is rather absurd imo.
    I agree with you. Past presidents (not all of course), from Truman on IMO, have been at least accessories to war crimes.

    You cannot blame Bush as he most likely did not know about it, but, and this is a maybe, some US SF personnel did know, because what happened at the beginning of the war in Afghanistan was that A-teams were sent to aid several NA commanders and the A-teams and NA Commanders, at the beginning of the war, were together 24/7.
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    Re: Is Obama A War Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Obama has increased the number of drone strikes as well as their locations and it is known to the public at large (and definitely to him) that these drone strikes are causing civilians to die. Since killing civilians is a war crime and Obama knows that these drone strikes do sometimes kill civilians, is Obama a war criminal?

    Please note that I am not saying that the drone strikes kill only civilians, rather that they just kill civilians along with terrorists.

    Please note as well that I am not saying that Obama is a war criminal, I'm just posing the question is all.
    Is mr obama a war criminal? By the standards so many judged mr bush, then yes, he is a war criminal. Are/were those standards moronic, naive, childish, did I say moronic?, yes.

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