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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The founding fathers had nothing to do with term limits of the President. That was put in place in 1947.
    I guess I should have been more historically accurate. It would be more appropriate to say that George Washington (I guess I like old George so much that I figured whatever he liked, the founding fathers liked! ) set the trend of 2-term limits, and nearly every other president since (with a couple of exceptions) have limited themselves to two terms. You are correct, the constitution was eventually amended to prevent presidents from being in office for more than a decade.

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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    George Will's book on the subject changed my mind years ago. Limit terms. Especially if you are worried about politicians being bought by special interests. A Senator serving his final six years, in no need of campaign funding, is less likely to be seduced by lobbyists.

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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I understand the notion of allowing "the people" to vote in who they want. At the same time, I think long stays occur far more due to apathy within the voter base and the large benefits of incumbancy then any true desire by a majority of "the people" to truly stay with that individual.

    To be honest, I think for balance purposes perhaps put a more stringent limit on the Senate than the House. Due to the long term for Senators give them a 2 term limit, which would still allow a person more than a decade in that seat. Give the House something like 10 terms due to their fairly short term of office. This would allow them, if continually re-elected, 20 years. Since the House is supposed to be "the peoples" chamber I think its reasonable to allow them to have the most chances of re-election and the longest tenure if the people vote it so. Especially since, due to the continued nature of the House voting, there is a larger chance of voting them out then a Senator or a President.

    I think that this would not only be a benefit to the way in which government runs, but in regards to the TYPE of people we have run for government. In our current society you almost have to be groomed from an early age to be able to have any shot at a national level, which is dissapointing. Its a bit less so in the House, but still rare. I think it'd be great to see where Politics becomes a bit more accessible to people. I think it would engage more people into the entire process and make it seem a bit more attainable goal.
    I was cheering you on till that part. It is precisely because the House is supposed to be the most representative, the "people's chamber" as you say, that there should be a higher turnover, not further entrenchment.

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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I guess I should have been more historically accurate. It would be more appropriate to say that George Washington (I guess I like old George so much that I figured whatever he liked, the founding fathers liked! ) set the trend of 2-term limits, and nearly every other president since (with a couple of exceptions) have limited themselves to two terms. You are correct, the constitution was eventually amended to prevent presidents from being in office for more than a decade.
    Other Presidents followed suit more out of respect for Washington than anything else. If Washington had stayed 3 terms, my guess is, out of respect for him, others would have used that as their limit.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I was cheering you on till that part. It is precisely because the House is supposed to be the most representative, the "people's chamber" as you say, that there should be a higher turnover, not further entrenchment.
    If it is "the people's chamber" it is up to the people to decide that. If "the people" want the same representative for 40 years, that is "the people's" decision.
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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If it is "the people's chamber" it is up to the people to decide that. If "the people" want the same representative for 40 years, that is "the people's" decision.
    Defeating an encumbent is difficult. He is often better funded and has much greater name recognition than an unknown challenger.

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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Defeating an encumbent is difficult. He is often better funded and has much greater name recognition than an unknown challenger.
    OK. I'm not sure how that counters what I said, but that's probably correct.
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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Our system already has "term limits" they are called "elections". If they people think the representative should go...they can vote them out.
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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We already have 'term limits'...2 and 6 years. Limiting the number of terms isnt really practical and certainly not on a state by state basis. I know people disagree but the move to impose a limit on the number of terms is a lazy mans way of governing. If people dont like the candidates they have, vote them out...elect someone else. If their candidate is worthy of re-election, send them as many times as you want.

    However if we were to restore the balance prescribed by the constitution, the role of the fed would be significantly reduced and their would be far more cache to being a state politician than a federal politician. As it is there is obviously something drastically wrong when candidates pay hundreds of millions on campaigns for a job that pays under 200k. Thats a pretty good indicator that the fed exists to feed party and special interest groups.
    I appreciate your theory, but we need them now. Besides they were able to pass term limits on the president with an amendment.
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    Re: Term limits on the House and the Senate?

    I vote yes for both and think you will generally find bipartisan support among the people for term limits in Congress. Unfortunately, I think you will also find bipartisan opposition to it by our representatives of both parties.
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