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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I've got no problem with it, it gets kids who may not otherwise have the ability to go to college through the doors. So long as their educational requirements are the same as everyone else's, sports scholarships are fine. It's when all they have to do is throw around a ball that I object. College exists to teach, not to play.
    Thank you. I would never have been able to afford to go to university were it not for my athletic scholarship...
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So what? We're supposed to treat University like some form of minimum security prison? I'd rather academia be taken seriously, the focus should never be on a football team or a basketball team. And they don't really bring money into the university as a whole; they bring money into the administration and athletics departments.
    At the University I attended, state law prohibited general university funds to be used in the athletic program.
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Those jerks go to schools without football teams. But in general, what I said stands. Admission should be based on academic performance and ability; nothing else.
    You sound like someone who is bitter at athletes. Do you understand how difficult it is to balance athletics and academics???
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    First off, it's about dispelling the myth that somehow football generates significant revenue for academia. Secondly, it's that because of the business of college football and basketball in particularly; some "students" are not achieving anything scholastically and are cheating to make sure good players get the grades they need to continue to play. If Timmy "brainiac" doesn't perform up to the academic standards, he's out of there. If a star football player doesn't perform up to academic standards, it's well more likely in that case that certain administrators make sure that they still get a passing grade.
    I have not argued that it contributes to academia, because in my experience it doesn't. Again, I was in a state where BY LAW, the two funds are separated. However, student athletes do make a contribution to the life on campus. Sports foster school spirit and loyalty that typically extends beyond ones university years. Also, student-athletes bring experiences to the academic community that others don't have. Also, the team skills learned in sports serves to build the whole person rather than simply the book smarts. As an athlete, it was possible for me to bring experiences into the classroom that others did not have. It is beneficial to the university community, but I am not going to pretend that it brings money into academics with the possible exception that the school loyalty that sports help to develop do lead some alumni to donate money to academic programs after graduation.
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Is it a good idea to keep admitting students to colleges based on their athletic skills rather than their academic skills?

    While I'm not against considering sports as a benefit to a student's resume, I'm talking about recruiting people specifically because of their sports skills.
    Sure they should.

    Athletes bring in revenue for colleges, and helps keep them funded. Also, higher education is just as much about physical excellence as it is about intellectual excellence.

    I have two things to say about this:

    1) Student athletes should get paid for their performance. It is unnatural to expect college athletes to make good grades, go to practice, and hold down a job to pay for their housing, food, entertainment, and other extras. So I think that all athletes should be paid for their work for the school.

    2) Colleges should better market their academic institutions. By this, I mean that every college should use their English and Creative Writing students to write for the school's magazines and fiction anthologies, or use their History students to write up historical programs for the school to produce, or hold concerts for their music department.

    There's a lot more ways that colleges can benefit from academics if they actually put some thought into it.
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    I'm not sure how other universities do it, but at my institution, athletes cannot have a significantly lower Academic Index than other students (I think its one Standard Deviation).

    Also, I voted yes, if its a private institution they should be able to admit any students they want.
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Sure they should.

    Athletes bring in revenue for colleges, and helps keep them funded. Also, higher education is just as much about physical excellence as it is about intellectual excellence.

    I have two things to say about this:

    1) Student athletes should get paid for their performance. It is unnatural to expect college athletes to make good grades, go to practice, and hold down a job to pay for their housing, food, entertainment, and other extras. So I think that all athletes should be paid for their work for the school.
    We are paid, with an education. Athletic budgets can't sustain paying athletes. If they did that, the non-revenue generating sports would have to be cut. And BTW, scholarships include housing and food. And unless the rules have changed, NCAA scholarship athletes are not permitted to have jobs outside the university.
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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Those jerks go to schools without football teams. But in general, what I said stands. Admission should be based on academic performance and ability; nothing else.
    but universities are far more than mere academics. there are many way to learn outside of classrooms. I had never met a Hasidic Jew or someone of the Bahai faith or an Intertnational master in chess before going to college. having all as suitemates taught me as much as I learned in a classroom stocked with the best students and professors in the USA



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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Like what?
    I learned alot from different people-one of my classmates in law school was a consensus all american football player who was on the superbowl winning Oakland As another guy was on the pro tennis tour. one made law review, the other is a top sports agent in Nebraska. People who have been world class achievers are interesting people to be around. I also had one of the guys who tested the F-16.. they sure added alot more to my education than a couple more nerds who had done nothing but study in college.



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    Re: Is Admitting Students to College based on Sports Beneficial?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It gets alumni bucks for stadiums and sports scholarships. Come on turtle, you know better.
    bs-its far more than that. of course I went to a college that was not known as an NBA or NFL factory. In my experience athletes enhanced my college experience.



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