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Thread: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oh good - everyone in the world who's ever bought anything in the US, from the US or through US connections can vote in our elections!

    What a widespread and novel, futuristic view you have!
    In all fairness, apdst said "if you don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote." Not "If you pay taxes, you get to vote."

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oh good - everyone in the world who's ever bought anything in the US, from the US or through US connections can vote in our elections!

    What a widespread and novel, futuristic view you have!
    Only if they're an American citizen. That's already a law, BTW. In case you didn't know that.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Gee whiz! Can children even vote?

    To avoid the risk of getting infracted, I'm going to leave it at that.

    Seriously, though - no, I don't agree.

    Our taxation system is full fo **** - basing a right on who pays in and who doesn't is off the mark.

    I support awareness-voting measures as well as a unified information system that's non-partisan but fact-based. I don't think we could ever *require* everyone to "know everything before you vote!" - that's impossible - but we need to place MORE effort on people making an educated vote. The system is faulted because it's set up to be based on popularity - which is just the wrong appraoch to take when it's something so important.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Only if they're an American citizen. That's already a law, BTW. In case you didn't know that.
    Everyone (every adult citizen) pays taxes, and I really do mean all of them. So, your stipulation is meaningless.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    Seriously, though - no, I don't agree.

    Our taxation system is full fo **** - basing a right on who pays in and who doesn't is off the mark.

    I support awareness-voting measures as well as a unified information system that's non-partisan but fact-based. I don't think we could ever *require* everyone to "know everything before you vote!" - that's impossible - but we need to place MORE effort on people making an educated vote. The system is faulted because it's set up to be based on popularity - which is just the wrong appraoch to take when it's something so important.
    So, you support the welfare class being a voting block that can vote themselves more welfare money?
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Everyone (every adult citizen) pays taxes, and I really do mean all of them. So, your stipulation is meaningless.
    Not income taxes, they don't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not income taxes, they don't.
    They still pay taxes. Are you now specifying only those who pay income taxes?
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't understand these debates between Right or a Privilege... since rights are nothing more than social constructs
    I agree that is a social construct, but in my view, a right tends to be an automatic aspect of citizenship while a privilege is somehow earned through activity.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    They still pay taxes. Are you now specifying only those who pay income taxes?
    Yeah, that's what I meant. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, that's what I meant. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
    If I pay more in income taxes, should I get more votes than you?
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