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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    So alot of people on this forum have said things that make alot of sense, except for the people who believe it should be a right!! As many people have said on this forum that there should be an education required to make an informed and educated decision on who they should vote on.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Straight forward question.

    I think it should be a privilege because of its importance in our government. While I don't agree with a poll tax, or something like that, I think we need to tie voting to education. I would suggest that we require a high school diploma, or an equivalent GED (or a naturalized citizen, something similar from their home country if necessary), and remove the mandate that we have to go to high school.

    This ties into the other problem I see: a lot of people don't value education enough. In my school, and other schools I've been to, most students waste time, which could be used to help the students who actually want to learn.

    What do you think?

    EDIT: Question shold be "Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?
    If people are subject to the laws of a government, they have the right to be involved in the policies of the government. That was why our Founding Fathers led a revolution against the British Empire.

    Also, I don't think that we should let only the educated vote. Rather, I think we should focus more on helping voters get better educated.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Straight forward question.

    I think it should be a privilege because of its importance in our government. While I don't agree with a poll tax, or something like that, I think we need to tie voting to education. I would suggest that we require a high school diploma, or an equivalent GED (or a naturalized citizen, something similar from their home country if necessary), and remove the mandate that we have to go to high school.

    This ties into the other problem I see: a lot of people don't value education enough. In my school, and other schools I've been to, most students waste time, which could be used to help the students who actually want to learn.

    What do you think?

    EDIT: Question shold be "Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?
    I think the REAL question is whether voting should be considered a responsibility or a duty of a citizen. It is certainly considered a responsibility- something all citizens are encouraged to do but not required to do. Jury service, on the other hand, is considered a duty of every citizen and is mandated (though with certain exceptions).

    It is not a privilege in any way, shape, or form. Being born in a free country, however, is a privilege of birth. But the natural (or universal) right to vote is not, and should not, ever be considered a privilege.

    I personally believe it should remain a responsibility of every citizen, but not their duty. It must not be mandated. Like religion, we (as citizens) have the right to vote and the right not to vote.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    One last point I'd like to make.

    I am not the kind of person who will go out on election day (and the week prior), and attempt to get everyone to vote just for the sake of voting. I think informed citizens should be encouraged to vote and ignorant citizens should be encouraged to stay at home. This, of course, does not mean I wish to restrict the rights of all to vote. I haven't yet considered the "right" of convicted felons to vote. That is possibly a really good debate to start.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    They already have better treatment in our system of economics, better than they deserve, as a matter of fact. And certainly inheritors of wealth have no such claim at all. All of your arguments on this and related matters are so skewed and one sided they are comical.
    that's based on what they can afford in the private sector-not due to being rewarded by the goverment for shouldering far more of the tax burden (mainly because they are industrious) than others.
    What is comical are libs like you who think people are rich due to some sort of beneficial special treatment by the government==a fiction you all spin to justify making the rich payer higher taxes



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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's based on what they can afford in the private sector-not due to being rewarded by the goverment for shouldering far more of the tax burden (mainly because they are industrious) than others.
    What is comical are libs like you who think people are rich due to some sort of beneficial special treatment by the government==a fiction you all spin to justify making the rich payer higher taxes
    Oh, but they do. Benefit from the government, that is. Property and other laws establish a system whereby they are permitted to enrich themselves. There is no economic system devised where everyone can be wealthy. The best economic system known is one where private ownership is permitted, and a relatively few are permitted to accumulate more than others. But, alas, one of the unfortunate side effects of such a system is that the people who do accumulate such wealth begin to imagine themselves as being actually deserving of what they have been kindly allowed to acquire and keep.

    We permit their imaginings because it benefits us, the middle class. They are the means by which we attain maximum prosperity, or close to it. But do not delude yourself into thinking that we we would go long allowing the wealthy to be too greedy. Such delusions lead to the diminishment of us all. We would all prefer for that not to happen.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Straight forward question.

    I think it should be a privilege because of its importance in our government. While I don't agree with a poll tax, or something like that, I think we need to tie voting to education. I would suggest that we require a high school diploma, or an equivalent GED (or a naturalized citizen, something similar from their home country if necessary), and remove the mandate that we have to go to high school.

    This ties into the other problem I see: a lot of people don't value education enough. In my school, and other schools I've been to, most students waste time, which could be used to help the students who actually want to learn.

    What do you think?

    EDIT: Question shold be "Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?
    It's a right.

    Just because something is a right doesn't mean it can't be regulated, controlled or monitored - or withheld completely.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Oh, but they do. Benefit from the government, that is. Property and other laws establish a system whereby they are permitted to enrich themselves. There is no economic system devised where everyone can be wealthy. The best economic system known is one where private ownership is permitted, and a relatively few are permitted to accumulate more than others. But, alas, one of the unfortunate side effects of such a system is that the people who do accumulate such wealth begin to imagine themselves as being actually deserving of what they have been kindly allowed to acquire and keep.

    We permit their imaginings because it benefits us, the middle class. They are the means by which we attain maximum prosperity, or close to it. But do not delude yourself into thinking that we we would go long allowing the wealthy to be too greedy. Such delusions lead to the diminishment of us all. We would all prefer for that not to happen.

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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post

    I don't understand these debates between Right or a Privilege... since rights are nothing more than social constructs
    You are right in the overall sense. There are no inate rights. (Not even to be fed by our mothers at birth.)

    However, this is a question to posters here in the USA.. where voting IS a right in OUR 'social construct'/country.
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    Re: Should Voting be a Right or a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    You are right in the overall sense. There are no inate rights. (Not even to be fed by our mothers at birth.)

    However, this is a question to posters here in the USA.. where voting IS a right in OUR 'social construct'/country.
    Yes - it's limited and can be withheld altogether - according to our social construct.
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