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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    138 people on death row have been exonerated and released since 1976. 9 people have actually been executed despite serious doubts as to their guilt (most states do not allow posthumous exoneration). 1,237 people have been executed in total since 1976.

    So this means that at least 12% of death row inmates were most likely innocent...and those are just the ones that we're pretty sure about. There may be far more than that who were/are actually innocent, who can't prove it. In any case, that seems like a pretty big error rate for such a serious matter.
    Thanks for those statistics. When you look closely at the death penalty, one story that emerges in far too many cases is the really poor level of legal representation many of these people got in court. And many had no resources to do the kind of investigative work to try and clear them. As a result, they are convicted and it is often as due to those factors as anythign else.

    I support the death penalty as long as anyone charged under an offense punishable by death gets a really first class legal team to defend them. And they should get the same type of investigative resouces as the state gets. At their trial, a first rate appeals specialist should be right there from start to finish. After a convinction, all issues of appeal should be brought up for revue withing areasonable amount of time.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    I support it for certain crimes.




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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Do you support it, condone it, or don't care about it?

    I fully and wholly support the idea.
    I oppose capital punishment for a number of reasons. BTW just why isn't there a no way in hell option? Ya' wanna' be fair donja'?
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Should a serial murderer be spared his life?

    What is the minimum crime that demands capital punishment.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    keep on killing to show killing is wrong. doesn't make much sense to me. state-sanctioned murder is murder too. how any country can murder their own citizens and still claim to be civilized is beyond me. most democracies in the world have abandoned the death penalty.

    why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? it's not and it never will be. revenge murder serves no good purpose whatsoever.

    so many people who support the death penalty are blind to their own logical inconsistencies. they have no problem whining and moaning about the government having control in other matters, but when government tries to assume the greatest power that that any government can claim to have, the power to murder its own citizens, they are blinded, and can't see the inconsistency of supporting the death penalty and how that contradicts their otherwise freedom principles.

    no government acting genuinely as a servant of the people should ever be allowed to have that kind of power.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    keep on killing to show killing is wrong. doesn't make much sense to me. state-sanctioned murder is murder too. how any country can murder their own citizens and still claim to be civilized is beyond me. most democracies in the world have abandoned the death penalty.
    There's so much wrong there, I don't know where to begin. First off, killing isn't wrong. Killing not sanctioned by law is wrong, that's why we call it murder. It seems you have no idea what murder is or you wouldn't use absurd terms like "state-sanctioned murder". By definition, if the state sanctions it, it cannot be murder. Of course, you're just using the word as an emotional tool because it evokes an emotional response, but that's a horrible debate tactic and a dishonest one to boot.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's so much wrong there, I don't know where to begin. First off, killing isn't wrong. Killing not sanctioned by law is wrong, that's why we call it murder. It seems you have no idea what murder is or you wouldn't use absurd terms like "state-sanctioned murder". By definition, if the state sanctions it, it cannot be murder. Of course, you're just using the word as an emotional tool because it evokes an emotional response, but that's a horrible debate tactic and a dishonest one to boot.
    Well state sanctioned killing then. We still probably shouldn't use it. Having a method by which the government can knock off its own people is perhaps something we should now restrict since the death penalty is no longer necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well state sanctioned killing then. We still probably shouldn't use it. Having a method by which the government can knock off its own people is perhaps something we should now restrict since the death penalty is no longer necessary.
    Who says it's no longer necessary? Why wouldn't it be? The whole point is that some people have committed some crimes so heinous that they've lost the right to breathe the same air as decent society. There's no reason whatsoever to keep them alive. Thus, the death penalty. I'd say it's plenty necessary and not practiced nearly enough.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who says it's no longer necessary? Why wouldn't it be? The whole point is that some people have committed some crimes so heinous that they've lost the right to breathe the same air as decent society. There's no reason whatsoever to keep them alive. Thus, the death penalty. I'd say it's plenty necessary and not practiced nearly enough.
    Because we have jails. And they've gotten pretty dang good. Not a whole lot of escapes these day. The problem with the death penalty is the penalty of failure. The failure of the death penalty is that people innocent of the charged crime are killed. And the more you use it, the more innocents you'll get caught up to it. Because the penalty of failure is so large with the death penalty, and because our jail systems have become very good that once a person is behind bars they effectively pose no threat to society, there is no longer a need to execute people. There's no rational reasoning behind it anymore.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Some people need killing.

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