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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    There's a kind of logical misfire here, isn't there? You'd stop people from hurting others by hurting them? If you don't believe in retribution, i.e. you don't kill them because they have killed others, then you demonstrate a certain morality. But if you then kill them because they are dangerous and don't wish them to hurt others, then you showing yourself - and indeed all of society - to be equally lethal.
    I'm not opposed to killing. I never have been. I am opposed to disorder. People who kill indiscriminately, people who kill outside the boundaries of the law, create disorder. Killing criminals, within the framework of the legal system, restores order.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I'm not opposed to killing. I never have been. I am opposed to disorder. People who kill indiscriminately, people who kill outside the boundaries of the law, create disorder. Killing criminals, within the framework of the legal system, restores order.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Do any of the developed/advanced/civilized nations use capital punishment ?
    This poll is rigged somewhat.
    It should read "do you support capital punishment or do you condemn it ?
    I condemn it, imprisoning the murderer is punishment enough - a lifetime of slave labor - some may beg for death.
    I was , at one time in favor of the death penalty....by hanging yet....

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I'm not opposed to killing. I never have been. I am opposed to disorder. People who kill indiscriminately, people who kill outside the boundaries of the law, create disorder. Killing criminals, within the framework of the legal system, restores order.
    Except order for order's sake is neither desirable nor rational. Many, many repressive regimes maintain order, but to what end? Merely maintaining order benefits only the ruling class. A certain amount of disorder is inevitable in a society that can and does change. That disorder and change may be for the better or for the worse, but change without a degree of disorder probably isn't really change.

    So, if your only interest is in maintaining order, then using violent means probably makes a degree of sense. For me other objectives beyond the simple maintenance of the staus quo take precedence over the imposition of order at any cost.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    No, it's more like a cleansing of society of scum like, murders, multiple rapists, serial killers, and other people that do unthinkable things. People like that are twisted and do not contribute whatsoever to society by committing these atrocities. It can be defined more as a genocidal thing, but genocide that benefits society, if that made any sense.
    While you were cleansing society, you forgot about cleansing society of the innocent that were railroaded onto death row by over zealous police and prosecuting attorneys.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Do any of the developed/advanced/civilized nations use capital punishment ?
    The US and the East Asian countries do. It's banned almost everywhere in Europe, and all of the Anglosphere save the US.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    While you were cleansing society, you forgot about cleansing society of the innocent that were railroaded onto death row by over zealous police and prosecuting attorneys.
    I always wondered what the ratio is between innocents that have died because of the DP vs the actual criminals that have died due to the DP. If the ratio is (shooting from the hip here) 1 billion to 1 then I'm not going to worry about it. We are only human after all and mistakes happen. But making mistakes does not mean that you stop trying.

    IMO CP is a needed part of society UNTIL we get to the point technologically that we can basically correct them by "brain washing" them or some such. I'd have no problem with that. That way CP would no longer be needed and the bad guys would never commit the crime they got caught for again.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Do you support it, condone it, or don't care about it?

    I fully and wholly support the idea.
    I believe that Capital Punishment is a just punishment in some cases. I don't think it's a deterrent but I do believe it's just in the most heinous of crimes... and in those few cases, I support it.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Absolutely support it, we don't use it nearly enough.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I always wondered what the ratio is between innocents that have died because of the DP vs the actual criminals that have died due to the DP. If the ratio is (shooting from the hip here) 1 billion to 1 then I'm not going to worry about it. We are only human after all and mistakes happen.
    138 people on death row have been exonerated and released since 1976. 9 people have actually been executed despite serious doubts as to their guilt (most states do not allow posthumous exoneration). 1,237 people have been executed in total since 1976.

    So this means that at least 12% of death row inmates were most likely innocent...and those are just the ones that we're pretty sure about. There may be far more than that who were/are actually innocent, who can't prove it. In any case, that seems like a pretty big error rate for such a serious matter.
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