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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Agree. Bleeding hearts wish to whine and cry that it is not a deterrent due to all these lame ass studies but the fact is that we have not used Capital Punishment in the way that we should be so no study in the USA world can speak about things we are not doing.

    I am pretty sure that if we started killing these monsters and sending a clear message to anybody living in the U.S.A.: if you kill someone in cold blood for no reason we can and will kill you in a speedy fashion? The lower than **** asswipes doing these things will stop and re-think their actions.

    I am also 100% sure that if we started killing these little prick assholes that rape babies and small children that these digusting monsters would re-think what they do.

    If we send a clear message that if you do this in this country you will DIE? You damn sure bet your ass it will go down. Period. Point. Blank.
    Well, I'd argue that there is plenty of evidence from the US and from other countries that the DP does not function as a deterrent. If you believe that it has never been applied in the way you would envisage, then where do you get any evidence to support your assertion that it WOULD act a a deterrent. Do you just feel that it would? Please provide research links, if you have any.

    I notice that most pro-DP posters seems to enjoy labelling the antis as 'squeamish' and 'bleeding hearts' and then use extremely emotive arguments, co-opting the experiences of the victims of crime, to support their arguments. Am I the only one that finds that slightly ironic?
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Of course it's not a deterrent, there's no study that would claim that it is. It's just the death penalty. Argue for it on those grounds. People need to quit making excuses for the use of it and acknowledge what they're doing and the cost of the system (in innocent human life and actual currency). To me, I have not seen real argument that is anything other than revenge based arguments for the death penalty. So and so deserves to die, they are scum, they don't deserve to be in the gene pool, blah blah blah. That's what I've seen.

    I also find it ironic so many "pro-life" people support the death penalty. Sure, their excuse is that they are pro innocent life and think that anything and everything should be done to preserve innocent life. Fair enough, I can agree. But the use of the death penalty means that innocent people will be killed. That's what happens when you employ it with an imperfect judicial system. So support of the death penalty, calling for extending it and using it more often will only go to exacerbate the frequency of the fail state in which innocent people are put to death.

    There's no way to avoid innocent people being thrown into jail. Our system is imperfect as absolute knowledge is impossible to gain. So we do our best. But I think that perhaps maybe we don't have to kill them.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So what would you say to the families......of the thousands of prison guards, correctional officers, and other inmates killed by convicted murderers during their incarceration?

    Tell them about the 100% effective rate.......
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    Are you under the mistaken impression that I'm anti death penalty? Convicted offenders can be incapacitated by imprisonment or death.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are you under the mistaken impression that I'm anti death penalty? Convicted offenders can be incapacitated by imprisonment or death.
    Death would be 100% effective.......

    .......the thousands of murdered prison guards, correctional officers, and inmates are proof that imprisonment does not gurantee incapacitation.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Death would be 100% effective.......

    .......the thousands of murdered prison guards, correctional officers, and inmates are proof that imprisonment does not gurantee incapacitation.
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    Is there an echo in here?

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Death would be 100% effective.......

    .......the thousands of murdered prison guards, correctional officers, and inmates are proof that imprisonment does not gurantee incapacitation.
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    Dude, really.

    I quoted your earlier post and told you to reread Catz' post. Then SHE responded and you're STILL not getting it.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    some people need frying but I don't like giving the government the power to fry people

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    I feel the same way though I fully support laws that hold harmless intended victims of violent crime killing their attackers (or worse) as long as the time period is within a reasonable interval connected to the criminal attack



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    Re: Capital Punishment

    How could it not be a deterrent? Why do you think most folks on Death Row lie and claim they are innocent and trying their best to get out? These are the worse of the worse humans and they still wanna live. So it just makes sense that if we start taking this serious and ridding our society of them that it will send a clear message: cold blooded killers and baby rapist are not allowed anywhere in our society.

    If stricter laws do not work then why do we have laws to start with? We have laws because it helps to keep crime under control and does reduce crime. See where I am going with this? I mean HELLO!
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I feel the same way though I fully support laws that hold harmless intended victims of violent crime killing their attackers (or worse) as long as the time period is within a reasonable interval connected to the criminal attack
    That's a far more effective deterrent than anything the courts can do.

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