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Capital Punishment

What do you think of Capital Punishment?

  • Support it

    Votes: 35 45.5%
  • Condone it

    Votes: 16 20.8%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • other (explain)

    Votes: 25 32.5%

  • Total voters
    77
A society which chooses to kill members of that society is deeply dysfunctional. There is no level of proof high enough.

You mean besides the fact that capital punishment, properly applied, serves as a deterent on two levels?

First level is that there's no record of anyone punished so permanently has ever turned recidivist.

Second level is that when capital punishment is applied as the natural outcome of heinous crime, without the media circus, the little whiny left-winger hand wringers crying outside the prison, without the all the petty absurd emotion that goes with the bed wetters upset that a killer is being discarded, when, in fact, the punishment is applied routinely and surely, and most importantly, SWIFTLY for certain acts, people stop and think before they commit those acts themselves.

There's something wrong with someone who can shed a tear for a Jeffrey Dahmer, a Jose Avila, a Charles Manson, to name a few .
 
You mean besides the fact that capital punishment, properly applied, serves as a deterent on two levels?

First level is that there's no record of anyone punished so permanently has ever turned recidivist.

Second level is that when capital punishment is applied as the natural outcome of heinous crime, without the media circus, the little whiny left-winger hand wringers crying outside the prison, without the all the petty absurd emotion that goes with the bed wetters upset that a killer is being discarded, when, in fact, the punishment is applied routinely and surely, and most importantly, SWIFTLY for certain acts, people stop and think before they commit those acts themselves.

There's something wrong with someone who can shed a tear for a Jeffrey Dahmer, a Jose Avila, a Charles Manson, to name a few .

I see you've just arrived. If you had bothered to read any of the preceding 325 posts you'd have noticed that the argument for the deterrent effect of the DP has already been dealt with at great length. Your argument lost btw, as the more intelligent of your fellow DP supporters reject it too. We have moved on. Now, are you here to debate, and if so, please familiarise yourself with the state of play. If you wish to restart the entire debate from scratch, please start a new thread of your own. I'm sure you'll find others willing to play.
 
You mean a society like the vast majority of societies that have ever existed in all of human history? It's amazing we've survived this long.

Very strange. So executing children must be a good thing then? Or paedophilia - the Greeks survived a long time. Or slavery - I think the vast majority of societies in human history had that too...
 
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You mean besides the fact that capital punishment, properly applied, serves as a deterent on two levels?

First level is that there's no record of anyone punished so permanently has ever turned recidivist.

Second level is that when capital punishment is applied as the natural outcome of heinous crime, without the media circus, the little whiny left-winger hand wringers crying outside the prison, without the all the petty absurd emotion that goes with the bed wetters upset that a killer is being discarded, when, in fact, the punishment is applied routinely and surely, and most importantly, SWIFTLY for certain acts, people stop and think before they commit those acts themselves.

There's something wrong with someone who can shed a tear for a Jeffrey Dahmer, a Jose Avila, a Charles Manson, to name a few .

This is just Bollocks and had been clearly demonstrated as such by this thread. There is no evidence of capital punishment being a deterrent. In fact the evidence points to the fact that this contributes to a violent culture which makes violent crime more likely. Capital punishment eventually increases capital crime. The arguments are all here.

Personal attacks on those who disagree with the death penalty seem to be all some pro DP people have.

Most anti DP people I know are against it because of what it does to us- reducing us to killers. But cheap and easy abuse is too tempting for the grunting intellects of too many vengeance seeking thugs.

What is it that these swivel eyed morons get off on (that is some of the anti DP people who seem to think that killers think just like them - a disconcerting thought to say the least)?

Do they sit there fantasizing about their own children getting raped and murdered (you know, that "what if it was your daughter?" argument) so as to work themselves up into a frenzy of rage? Do they spend hours imagining the cruelty of murders and abuse before getting lost in an emotional tornado of unconsummated anger-lust?

What drives these foam mouthed purple templed guardians of justice?
 
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The Deterrent is only as effective as the Punishment is Harsh........

To all the doubters and deniers..........

Man accused of stalking woman before killing her in Oak Brook - Chicago Sun-Times

Man accused of stalking woman before killing her in Oak Brook

Berlin said Smirnov had done research on the Internet to determine if Illinois had the death penalty, deciding to go through with Vesel’s murder when he discovered it does not.

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........the Death Penalty doesnt deter crime huh.......tell that to the family of Jitka Vesel.
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How many serial killers are there, really? Not enough to justify making policy decisions on their behalf. Most of them aren't ever sentenced to death anyway, because they are ill.

Exactly if they are so ill and caused so much pain then why not just eliminate them from society. Paedophiles and rapists typically have deep seated psychological problems, is there any real hope for rehabilitation? Why can't we have faith in our system, one trial with the opportunity for one appeal. If both find you guilty and condemned to death then walk them out of the courthouse put a gun to the back of the brain stem and problem solved.
 
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