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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    To me that doesn't make sense. I know people who would steal but don't because of the laws. Is it not plausible to think the some people decide not to do the crime, because they don't want to be punished? I would think that some people secretly wish to do crimes but don't because of their fears.
    Some kill because of their fears as well. But, most people don't steal, and they don't for all kinds of reasons. Punsihment is but one. But even with punishments, people steal. However, murder comes from a different place. Less greed, and more primal.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Apparently there is no such thing as a deterrent to murder.......regardless if the punishment is a death sentence or a $5.00 fine......

    .......so we should stop punishing murderers all together.....since according to the anti-capital punishment crowd......deterrents have no effect what so ever and have never prevented one murder.

    My only hope.....is said crowd is not reproducing......
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Apparently there is no such thing as a deterrent to murder.......regardless if the punishment is a death sentence or a $5.00 fine......

    .......so we should stop punishing murderers all together.....since according to the anti-capital punishment crowd......deterrents have no effect what so ever and have never prevented one murder.

    My only hope.....is said crowd is not reproducing......
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    I have given you the opportunity to present evidence that it deters. I don't believe there is any such evidence. Perhaps you should take another track?

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You miss the point. I ahve not argued that criminals are msitreated in any way. I've argued that I wouldn't accept killing one INNOCENT person being killed by mistake. What you write shows you really don't get it.
    This is a red herring, in my opinion. If the DP is imposed only when we know for certain who the guilty party is, as in Loughner's case, would you support it then?
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Some kill because of their fears as well. But, most people don't steal, and they don't for all kinds of reasons. Punsihment is but one. But even with punishments, people steal. However, murder comes from a different place. Less greed, and more primal.
    So what do you aim to accomplish? Because it seems that punishment is not much if any deterent, should it be removed or not?

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    So what do you aim to accomplish? Because it seems that punishment is not much if any deterent, should it be removed or not?
    Punishment? No. Death penalty? yes, do away with it. But for another reason. As I have said, I appose it because one innocnet death is one too many. Life imprisonment is enough, and is punishment.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is a red herring, in my opinion. If the DP is imposed only when we know for certain who the guitly party is, as in Loughner's case, would you support it then?
    You'd have a better shot of getting my support. Down deep I believe killing is wrong, even by the state. But I've seen people I think should die. So, I would at least listen, to both sides. Might even abstain from voting, should the issue come up for a vote. But any risk of killing an innocent is too much.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You'd have a better shot of getting my support. Down deep I believe killing is wrong, even by the state. But I've seen people I think should die. So, I would at least listen, to both sides. Might even abstain from voting, should the issue come up for a vote. But any risk of killing an innocent is too much.
    Okay then, your only objection is not that an innocent person might be executed (the odds of which are virtually nil now btw), but that it's "wrong". How about what the murderer did? Are you equally offended by their actions?
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have given you the opportunity to present evidence that it deters. I don't believe there is any such evidence. Perhaps you should take another track?
    Logic provided all the evidence needed......

    If there was no punishment at all for murder.....and the public was permitted to murder at will without any fear of reprimand.....under your premis the murder rate would remain unchanged. Since no deterrent has ever prevented one murder in the history of the world.

    .....tis insanity.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Odd. Punishments are not a deterent? Why have them, then?
    What other suggestions do you have for convicted rapists and murderers, aside from removing them from society?

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