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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Despite your irresistible sex bomb status, your cogent argument is somewhat spoiled by one of your very own colleagues right here, Mr Badmutha, who argues that very point. Post 137:So, it's not the antis who are flogging this particular dead horse. You'll notice that none of us here have raised it, merely responded when a pro-DP poster used it.
    Odd. Punishments are not a deterent? Why have them, then?

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Odd. Punishments are not a deterent? Why have them, then?
    Earlier in the thread we discussed the various different functions that punishment can fulfil. These include education, retribution, deterrence, incapacitation, restoration etc. Not all punishments can or are intended to fulfill all of these functions. It is up to society to decide how to balance out these aims in the type of punishments it uses for those who transgress. Deterrence is only one consideration - and one that the DP fails to deliver IMHO.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why, exactly?
    I was sixteen in Georgia. He was 24, a weightlifter. He was trouble. I told my sister to stay away from him. She didn't, and he hurt her. I was expected to do something about. I was scared and angery, a bad combination. He was arrogant. Told him I wasn't there to talk, and to come out and let us be done with it. He pranced out and threw his hands up saying, "fat boy I'm going . . . " I hit him. Then I hit him again and again. When they pulled me off of him, he was bent over a car, bleeding quite a bit. He slide to the ground. They wisked me off, and no one told the police who did it. He was not in positin to say.

    I talked to his uncle later. Turns out I worked for him. No charges where ever filled, but his uncle told me he spent a week in the hospital. Couldn't remember what happened.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Do I really need to spell it out? Let's just say your sympathies lie in a different place than mine do.
    Like I said, unlikely that you get it.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Is punishment and it's varying degrees not a deterent?

    If not, then why have punishments?
    What leads a person to kill is different than what leads a person to steal. However, deterents of all kinds only work with those who care. You lock a door not for criminals, but for honest people who might see an opportunity and be tempted. Criminals expect a locked door, and plan accordingly.

    The point is, however, the reasons a person kills overrides any thougth of a deterent.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    To me that doesn't make sense. I know people who would steal but don't because of the laws. Is it not plausible to think the some people decide not to do the crime, because they don't want to be punished? I would think that some people secretly wish to do crimes but don't because of their fears.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, unlikely that you get it.
    You can keep saying that, but I do get it, better than before. Some of us are outraged by what the system does to criminals, others of us are more outraged by what criminals do to their victims. It's all a matter of perspective.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's all a matter of perspective.
    And over-simplification, clearly.
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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You can keep saying that, but I do get it, better than before. Some of us are outraged by what the system does to criminals, others of us are more outraged by what criminals do to their victims. It's all a matter of perspective.
    You miss the point. I ahve not argued that criminals are msitreated in any way. I've argued that I wouldn't accept killing one INNOCENT person being killed by mistake. What you write shows you really don't get it.

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    Re: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    And over-simplification, clearly.
    It's true. Sometimes people seem to feel more sorry the murderer than the victims.
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