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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    save the state (both on the federal and state level) billions by forcing energy companies to actually compete. if they are unable to provide a better product for a lower price for the American people, let them die; they don't deserve to be able to force all Americans to prop them up via subsidies just because their business plan sucks.
    In such a case then companies would definitely go overseas. This would not work for the simple fact that other countries would give them subsidies and grants, and far less restrictions than the US has. So, where would that leave Americans?
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In such a case then companies would definitely go overseas.
    those for whom it would be beneficial; yes. which is fine.

    This would not work for the simple fact that other countries would give them subsidies and grants, and far less restrictions than the US has. So, where would that leave Americans?
    ..... getting free money from the taxpayers of other nations in the form of lower-costing goods?

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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

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    those for whom it would be beneficial; yes. which is fine.
    What corporation wouldn't find it beneficial to go over seas once they lost subsidies and grants from the federal government? Especially if those other countries offered em?

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    ..... getting free money from the taxpayers of other nations in the form of lower-costing goods?
    Sure, lower costing goods..but that is not all. Other countries also offer the same types of subsidies and grant monies that the US currently offers. With your plan they would have extra incentive to move outside the US than they currently have.
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What corporation wouldn't find it beneficial to go over seas once they lost subsidies and grants from the federal government? Especially if those other countries offered em?

    Sure, lower costing goods..but that is not all. Other countries also offer the same types of subsidies and grant monies that the US currently offers. With your plan they would have extra incentive to move outside the US than they currently have.
    You're basically arguing that the US would lose all of its jobs. A question: why would all of these companies leave the great productive capabilities of the individuals of this nation unused?

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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In such a case then companies would definitely go overseas. This would not work for the simple fact that other countries would give them subsidies and grants, and far less restrictions than the US has. So, where would that leave Americans?
    It would not hurt us one iota if we had the courage to enforce the provisions of the US Constitution regarding tariffs.
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It would not hurt us one iota if we had the courage to enforce the provisions of the US Constitution regarding tariffs.
    Smoot-Hawley.

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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Smoot-Hawley.
    So what? People get the squirts every day from eating a bad taco but they still enjoy the good ones for the rest of their lives. This idea that the right wing has that all they need is the name of ONE bad experience from eighty years ago to negate the tariff is a testimonial to the simple mindedness of their approach and beliefs.

    We would not have to worry about companies taking their act on the road if we merely used the very powers that the Constitution provides the Congress with. Or don't you conservatives support your sainted founders in that provision of your beloved Constitution?
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're basically arguing that the US would lose all of its jobs. A question: why would all of these companies leave the great productive capabilities of the individuals of this nation unused?
    Not all of its jobs no. But we are not talking about all jobs. We are talking about manufacturing jobs. And that we would lose. We cannot afford to lose manufacturing jobs. The only ones that would stay in the US are the small ones that can't afford to go overseas.
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It would not hurt us one iota if we had the courage to enforce the provisions of the US Constitution regarding tariffs.
    Blame the FTA.
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    Re: Manufacturing jobs - Read post before voting!

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're basically arguing that the US would lose all of its jobs. A question: why would all of these companies leave the great productive capabilities of the individuals of this nation unused?
    Sorry, I didnt answer your question. The answer is really simple. Corporations don't give a crap about productive capabilities near as much as they care about the bottom line and money. If when all is accounted for it (accounting for everything..including grants and subsidies) costs X amount of dollars to produce something in the US and it costs Z amount of dollars to produce something in China and Z < X where do you think they are going to go?
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