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  • Feds should pass.

    10 37.04%
  • Leave it to the States.

    13 48.15%
  • Force into the Unions.

    1 3.70%
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    3 11.11%
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Thread: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    Regardless of how someone feels about unions, their historical and modern work and mission, I don't see how its every justified to allow a potential worker to be forced to join a union as a condition of employment.

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, let's take a few centuries of progress and move backward. That makes sense.
    So it makes sense to move even more backward and not have any labor organizations at all?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    I'm not a big union fan. I've spent too much time across the negotiating table, listening to union representatives tell us that they don't care if people are fired because they personally are protected by union seniority contracts, so they'll put 20% of their membership on the chopping block rather than take a pay freeze that will keep the city (or company) from going bankrupt.

    Unions are the number one reason California is going bankrupt. They are the highest paid in the nation, and they'd rather see the entire state implode that accept one furlough day a month, or a temporary wage freeze. So yeppers, I wouldn't mind seeing a federal right to work law put an end to this tomfoolery.

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So it makes sense to move even more backward and not have any labor organizations at all?
    Labor unions are a relic of the past. Their membership has been declining across the board for decades, and the states with the least vibrant economies are those that give them the most protection. Furthermore, labor unions have an odious effect on public policy (at least the public sector unions)...specifically in terms of education, criminal justice, and trade policy.

    The most plausible future is certainly not one where labor organizations are commonplace.
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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    As each member has freedom to work or to not work where they choose, they should also have the right to decide whether they want to be a member of an union. Thus, the feds should guarantee this to all.

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Labor unions are a relic of the past. Their membership has been declining across the board for decades, and the states with the least vibrant economies are those that give them the most protection. Furthermore, labor unions have an odious effect on public policy (at least the public sector unions)...specifically in terms of education, criminal justice, and trade policy.

    The most plausible future is certainly not one where labor organizations are commonplace.
    Labor unions may be a thing of a past, but I don't see why we can't give guilds a try. They've worked very well in the entertainment industry, and should be at least tried in other industries.

    Labor organizations of some type will always be with us. Laborers are citizens too, and so they are voters too. If their needs aren't addressed by politicians, then those blue collar voters will vote for those politicians who do. And labor organizations will always arise to spur them.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should Feds pass a Right To Work Law?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Labor unions may be a thing of a past, but I don't see why we can't give guilds a try. They've worked very well in the entertainment industry, and should be at least tried in other industries.
    That's essentially what we have for doctors...and it's a disaster. The AMA has a stranglehold over the certification process, and they have an incentive to protect the interests of their existing members by artificially limiting the number of new doctors each year and encouraging a bottleneck in medical schools. That's great for doctor paychecks, but terrible for American patients or the health care system in general.

    I would imagine that you'd see the same thing from other guilds or professional unions if they were commonplace. It may be OK in industries like entertainment that aren't essential to our economy and/or don't have any policy implications, but I would not want to see them expanded more broadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart
    Labor organizations of some type will always be with us. Laborers are citizens too, and so they are voters too. If their needs aren't addressed by politicians, then those blue collar voters will vote for those politicians who do. And labor organizations will always arise to spur them.
    That's fine, as long as those voters actually want to contribute to a political lobbying organization. I have a problem with lobbyists who force people to give them money so that they can lobby the government to continue forcing people to give them money.
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