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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Christianist extremists are no less reprehensible than those of any other religion. The pastor, and Tim McVeigh for example
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Christianist extremists are no less reprehensible than those of any other religion. The pastor, and Tim McVeigh for example
    This pastor hasn't killed anyone. Nor, to my knowlege, has he called for acts of terrorism.

    Tim McVeigh was a Branch Davidian, or a sympathizer, acting in response to the government destruction of the Waco compound and the killing of men women and children there.

    Comparison: utter FAIL.

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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    It was no one country which could survive without Religion. Leftism has destroyed Christianity, therefore it will be rejected by Islam, not later as in fifty years. The cowardly "churches" are dead, maybe only Pastors like Terry Jones can still withstand the hateful Teaching of the Religion of Peace and Tolerance. Otherwise our countries will became Caliphates governed by Sharia Law and only donkeys will be seen on our highways.
    Everyone could survive without religion, the human species doesn't need shared delusion. Just because people are used to having irrational beliefs doesn't mean they're necessary. Lots of people survive just fine without it.
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    While Terry Jones is certainly a controversial figure and something of a grand-stander, his words and actions are not equivalent to blowing up a bus full of Israeli schoolchildren, or 9/11, etc.
    True. However, extremism also is not necessarily violent. Likewise there are many fundamentalist or extremist Muslims who don't engage in violence, however extreme their views might be.

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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This pastor hasn't killed anyone. Nor, to my knowlege, has he called for acts of terrorism.

    Tim McVeigh was a Branch Davidian, or a sympathizer, acting in response to the government destruction of the Waco compound and the killing of men women and children there.

    Comparison: utter FAIL.
    A better comparison would perhaps be the Klan, or if you want to go back far enough, the Spanish Inquisition.

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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    The Koran is evil, he can burn it if he chooses. The UK is becoming too strict and kissing up to Muslims.
    I wouldn't burn it in public If I were him though, its not worth dying for. He needs to spend his time spreading the Gospel.
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Source for that last statement please... I can't find any information that links Terry Jones to Westboro's activities.
    I misread my source, they weren't at a soldiers funeral, but they're still protesting with the WBC.

    Westboro Church, counter protesters picket Sunday | Gainesville.com

    At the entrance to Trinity United off of Northwest 53rd Avenue, the Westboro group also was joined by about 30 members of the Dove World Outreach Center
    The Dove World Outreach Centre being Terry Jones' church.
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    While Terry Jones is certainly a controversial figure and something of a grand-stander, his words and actions are not equivalent to blowing up a bus full of Israeli schoolchildren, or 9/11, etc.
    My comparison was probably a bad one. I don't equate the guy with suicide bombers, but since Alfons is so threatened by muslims, I thought maybe the comparison would get my point across to him in a way he would understand.
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    A better comparison would perhaps be the Klan, or if you want to go back far enough, the Spanish Inquisition.
    NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
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    Re: Is Pastor Terry Jones a Pastor we need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    The Koran is evil, he can burn it if he chooses. The UK is becoming too strict and kissing up to Muslims.
    I wouldn't burn it in public If I were him though, its not worth dying for. He needs to spend his time spreading the Gospel.
    The Bible is evil too. Let's burn that!
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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