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  • More American's want their country to do more for them

    29 80.56%
  • More American's want to do more for their country

    2 5.56%
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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Maybe two percent depend on welfare for one reason or another. The other ninety-eight percent need some kind of steady work to keep their sanity.

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    many more than 2 percent use more government services than they pay for in taxes. those services are thus entitlements



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    Re: The JFK poll

    Other, of course.
    I have no way of knowing which is true, I have no stats, no numbers.
    Imagine the poll question and the responses.
    I doubt if human nature has changed much o'er the years.
    In the 1600s, man had no choice, other than to farm, hunt, or steal from others.
    One of these is a problem, even today.
    Enter welfare, I think this has worked, but not perfectly.

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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Majority of the Americans I know whine about the government and don't do anything about it. They are concerned about what programs, benefits, decisions et cetera, that government can offer than helping with coming up with solutions. My country and the US need more referendums.
    Referendums have not worked well in California,IMO.

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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I remember JFK's inaugural address. America was a different country then. The American people had a very different consciousness then.
    It was before we went "multi-cultural." We had unity of purpose.
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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    We've become a welfare state that hates paying taxes...need I say more?
    In other words.........you're becoming europeans. Just what did you expect?
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    Re: The JFK poll

    More American's want their country to do more for them

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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think most people want to know what their country can do for them. And honestly, that's the way it should be. JFK's quote was a nice soundbite for history, but expecting good governance is far more important than offering one's services out of a sense of nationalism.
    A lack of nationalism could just lead to a lack of a nation.
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    Re: The JFK poll

    They want the country to do more for them, be it decreasing its presence or increasing its presence. Here or there there is a sense of civic duty, but I think it is rather muted. To a degree, I would not be surprised if it was never that emphasized anyhow (history has made me a slightly non-rosy colored guy), but one cannot help but feel as if civic duty is not really pushed. For instance, when one politician or prominent government worker dies, I think to myself "thank you for your service." Many others will say, "thank you for your service (because I agreed with you)", but when it is someone less agreeable, "This guy/gal was a scumbag. Good riddance." Then again, my perspective rings a bit too much like "fascism" for many, because I happen to like nationalism.
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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Majority of the Americans I know whine about the government and don't do anything about it.
    The last election proves this wrong. It was a referendum on our little Red Leader. Pierre Trudeau Obama. That historic election resulted in a vote in the House to repeal Obamanistan Kare by more votes than what it took to pass the obomination. No bribes were required either.

    Now it is up to Dirty Hairy Reid. Of course he will try to avoid bringing up that issue. Wonder what he is fearful of?

    He's not fearful of "whining"... it cuts a little deeper than that.

    As for the JFK question... we have more people today than in JFK's day (but not a majority as evidenced by the last election) willing to use the government as a conduit to thieve money from others, and they are vocal about it. Back in JFK's day, people would have thought you were daft.

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    Re: The JFK poll

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The last election proves this wrong. It was a referendum on our little Red Leader. Pierre Trudeau Obama. That historic election resulted in a vote in the House to repeal Obamanistan Kare by more votes than what it took to pass the obomination. No bribes were required either.

    Now it is up to Dirty Hairy Reid. Of course he will try to avoid bringing up that issue. Wonder what he is fearful of?

    He's not fearful of "whining"... it cuts a little deeper than that.

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    I understand you position but I still think Americans whine more than act.

    Also, I don't understand why so many people are agianst Nationalised Health Care? Free visits to the doctor is amazing. I don't know why you Americans reject it! Obamacare is the first step forward to that.

    Also... Why the Pierre Trudeau reference? Really? He was a better leader than any other Canadian PM will ever be.
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