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Pedophilia and Islam

Is Pedophilia allow in Islam or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • No

    Votes: 8 57.1%

  • No opinion

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Total voters
    14
Ockham said:
Sure .... but it's mostly applied to Catholics. I don't know if there is a difference between Islam's main groups: Shia and Sunni though.
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I think people often mix up horrible traditions which are still common in backwards regions in Muslim countries, with the religion of Islam.

In really underdeveloped, backwards Muslim regions, people engage in practizes like arranged and forced marriage, female mutilation and things like that, and who would have imagined, justify that with their religion. In more developed Muslim regions, it's often even religious Muslims and Muslim clerics who condemn that very behavior, and justify this condemnation with Islam as well. Think, for example, of the campaign strongly supported by Muslim clerics against female mutilation in Egypt.
 
German guy said:
I think people often mix up horrible traditions which are still common in backwards regions in Muslim countries, with the religion of Islam.

In really underdeveloped, backwards Muslim regions, people engage in practizes like arranged and forced marriage, female mutilation and things like that, and who would have imagined, justify that with their religion. In more developed Muslim regions, it's often even religious Muslims and Muslim clerics who condemn that very behavior, and justify this condemnation with Islam as well. Think, for example, of the campaign strongly supported by Muslim clerics against female mutilation in Egypt.
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In really underdeveloped, backward Christian regions, people engage in these same practices, something that is largely ignored by Christians in their vehement attacks on Islam.
 
Ockham said:
Sure .... but it's mostly applied to Catholics. I don't know if there is a difference between Islam's main groups: Shia and Sunni though.
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Why are you assuming it's associated with either Sunni or Shia? As you said, "...though, it's not mainstream by any means."

Those are the mainstream sects, so if the claims aren't related to the mainstream beleifs, it isn't associated with either sect directly.

And as far as the "mostly applied to Catholics" part, that too is innaccurate. It's mostly applied to a small portion of the Catholic priesthood. Catholics are not deserving of the association by any stretch of the imagination. Catholics are not more inclined to pedophilia than other groups.
 
Tucker Case said:
Why are you assuming it's associated with either Sunni or Shia? As you said, "...though, it's not mainstream by any means."
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They are the two main sects of Islam. Are you claiming pedophilia is in no way associated with either Sunni or Shia?

Tucker Case said:
Those are the mainstream sects, so if the claims aren't related to the mainstream beleifs, it isn't associated with either sect directly.
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You seem to think when I say "mainstream" I equated that with Sunni and Shia - I did not. By mainstream I meant "commonly practiced".


Tucker Case said:
And as far as the "mostly applied to Catholics" part, that too is innaccurate. It's mostly applied to a small portion of the Catholic priesthood. Catholics are not deserving of the association by any stretch of the imagination. Catholics are not more inclined to pedophilia than other groups.
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Fine. Catholic Priesthood it is then, and specifically would you like to further define Catholic Priesthood into Parishes since you're very particular about being accurate?
 
Ockham said:
They are the two main sects of Islam. Are you claiming pedophilia is in no way associated with either Sunni or Shia?
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Yes. It's mostly associated with individuals.

You seem to think when I say "mainstream" I equated that with Sunni and Shia - I did not. By mainstream I meant "commonly practiced".
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Personally, I'd be very surprised if pedophilia wasn't just as common with Christians as it is with Muslims as it is with Atheists as it is with Buddhists as it is with Star Trek fans, etc.


Fine. Catholic Priesthood it is then, and specifically would you like to further define Catholic Priesthood into Parishes since you're very particular about being accurate?
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Not parishes, individual priests.
 
Tucker Case said:
Yes. It's mostly associated with individuals.
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Tucker Case said:
Not parishes, individual priests.
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Ok I can buy that. Do you lend no relevance then to the video posted in this thread which shows a person allegedly speaking for Islam, saying it's not only the individual but supported by Islam as he claims, Mohammed's example is the example to follow?
 
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate comment for this thread, but has anyone claimed Poe's Law on Alfons yet?
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate comment for this thread, but has anyone claimed Poe's Law on Alfons yet?
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Lol I don't even know what to think. Either way it's way too much effort on his part.
 
Ockham said:
Ok I can buy that. Do you lend no relevance then to the video posted in this thread which shows a person allegedly speaking for Islam, saying it's not only the individual but supported by Islam as he claims, Mohammed's example is the example to follow?
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I put that on an individual as well. He's justifying actions by using religion, but that can be done with many terrible acts in every religion. The individual is still responsible for their own actions, regardless of how they try to justify their actions.
 
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Alfons said:
Is Pedophilia allow in Islam or not, please vote.BTW do not forget the six years old Aisha, the wife of peaceful prophet Muhammad.

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Are you talkinng about Islam or the Catholic Church?:roll:
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate comment for this thread, but has anyone claimed Poe's Law on Alfons yet?
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I don't think so...though I haven't seen a parody before, so you never know
 
MaggieD said:
I don't disagree with you. Personally, I find the way that Islam treats women (and, in this example, children) to be appalling. But it is their culture. They are not evil because of their beliefs. I don't believe in hanging dogs up by their hind legs, clubbing to death and eating them for dinner is acceptable behavior either. But it's done in other countries. And I'd say the same thing about eating live monkey brains. Now, although these have to do with animals, it's absolutely appalling to me that people would do such things. But that's their lifestyle. And as long as they don't bring these appalling lifestyles to my country, I have little say in the matter. Except one of tolerance.
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I think you just said you tolerate sex with babies, please explain how you could tolerate sex with babies by anyone regardless of thier culture or religion. Personally I believe that somethings cross the line and can not be accepted or tolerated. Things like Catholic priest molesting young boys.
 
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