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Thread: Pedophilia and Islam

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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Sure .... but it's mostly applied to Catholics. I don't know if there is a difference between Islam's main groups: Shia and Sunni though.
    I think people often mix up horrible traditions which are still common in backwards regions in Muslim countries, with the religion of Islam.

    In really underdeveloped, backwards Muslim regions, people engage in practizes like arranged and forced marriage, female mutilation and things like that, and who would have imagined, justify that with their religion. In more developed Muslim regions, it's often even religious Muslims and Muslim clerics who condemn that very behavior, and justify this condemnation with Islam as well. Think, for example, of the campaign strongly supported by Muslim clerics against female mutilation in Egypt.
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I think people often mix up horrible traditions which are still common in backwards regions in Muslim countries, with the religion of Islam.

    In really underdeveloped, backwards Muslim regions, people engage in practizes like arranged and forced marriage, female mutilation and things like that, and who would have imagined, justify that with their religion. In more developed Muslim regions, it's often even religious Muslims and Muslim clerics who condemn that very behavior, and justify this condemnation with Islam as well. Think, for example, of the campaign strongly supported by Muslim clerics against female mutilation in Egypt.
    In really underdeveloped, backward Christian regions, people engage in these same practices, something that is largely ignored by Christians in their vehement attacks on Islam.

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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Sure .... but it's mostly applied to Catholics. I don't know if there is a difference between Islam's main groups: Shia and Sunni though.
    Why are you assuming it's associated with either Sunni or Shia? As you said, "...though, it's not mainstream by any means."

    Those are the mainstream sects, so if the claims aren't related to the mainstream beleifs, it isn't associated with either sect directly.

    And as far as the "mostly applied to Catholics" part, that too is innaccurate. It's mostly applied to a small portion of the Catholic priesthood. Catholics are not deserving of the association by any stretch of the imagination. Catholics are not more inclined to pedophilia than other groups.
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why are you assuming it's associated with either Sunni or Shia? As you said, "...though, it's not mainstream by any means."
    They are the two main sects of Islam. Are you claiming pedophilia is in no way associated with either Sunni or Shia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Those are the mainstream sects, so if the claims aren't related to the mainstream beleifs, it isn't associated with either sect directly.
    You seem to think when I say "mainstream" I equated that with Sunni and Shia - I did not. By mainstream I meant "commonly practiced".


    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    And as far as the "mostly applied to Catholics" part, that too is innaccurate. It's mostly applied to a small portion of the Catholic priesthood. Catholics are not deserving of the association by any stretch of the imagination. Catholics are not more inclined to pedophilia than other groups.
    Fine. Catholic Priesthood it is then, and specifically would you like to further define Catholic Priesthood into Parishes since you're very particular about being accurate?
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They are the two main sects of Islam. Are you claiming pedophilia is in no way associated with either Sunni or Shia?
    Yes. It's mostly associated with individuals.

    You seem to think when I say "mainstream" I equated that with Sunni and Shia - I did not. By mainstream I meant "commonly practiced".
    Personally, I'd be very surprised if pedophilia wasn't just as common with Christians as it is with Muslims as it is with Atheists as it is with Buddhists as it is with Star Trek fans, etc.


    Fine. Catholic Priesthood it is then, and specifically would you like to further define Catholic Priesthood into Parishes since you're very particular about being accurate?
    Not parishes, individual priests.
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Yes. It's mostly associated with individuals.
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    Not parishes, individual priests.
    Ok I can buy that. Do you lend no relevance then to the video posted in this thread which shows a person allegedly speaking for Islam, saying it's not only the individual but supported by Islam as he claims, Mohammed's example is the example to follow?
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    I'm not sure if this is an appropriate comment for this thread, but has anyone claimed Poe's Law on Alfons yet?

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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure if this is an appropriate comment for this thread, but has anyone claimed Poe's Law on Alfons yet?
    Lol I don't even know what to think. Either way it's way too much effort on his part.
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Ok I can buy that. Do you lend no relevance then to the video posted in this thread which shows a person allegedly speaking for Islam, saying it's not only the individual but supported by Islam as he claims, Mohammed's example is the example to follow?
    I put that on an individual as well. He's justifying actions by using religion, but that can be done with many terrible acts in every religion. The individual is still responsible for their own actions, regardless of how they try to justify their actions.
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    Re: Pedophilia and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    Is Pedophilia allow in Islam or not, please vote.BTW do not forget the six years old Aisha, the wife of peaceful prophet Muhammad.

    Are you talkinng about Islam or the Catholic Church?


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