View Poll Results: Which of these things would improve education in the US?

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  • Longer school days

    14 16.47%
  • Longer school years

    31 36.47%
  • Better pay for teachers

    29 34.12%
  • More charter schools

    27 31.76%
  • More public vouchers for private schools

    34 40.00%
  • Weakening teachers' unions

    42 49.41%
  • More funding

    31 36.47%
  • Reallocation of funding (e.g. on a state level instead of on a district level)

    27 31.76%
  • Firing teachers who fail to perform to the standards the school board expects

    50 58.82%
  • More online education, replacing some brick-and-mortar schools

    17 20.00%
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    Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    There are lots of proposals for education reform in the US, not all of which can work together. What do you think are the most important things that can be done to improve education?
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    The only thing that's going to make a difference is having parents more involved and interested in their child's education.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    You missed the most important two IF you want to catch up with other nations on international standardized test scores:

    1- a national educational curriculum where the entire USA learns the same things from the same books and materials and takes the same tests which measure what is actually learned in ever classroom in America. Until you do that, you are NOT measuring what is actually taught in classrooms or learned in classrooms since we have thousands upon thousands of different school systems devoid of uniformity in curriculum which many other nations have notably Japan.

    2- American education is a factory system where each raw material progresses down an assembly line at the same pace. That must be done away with. Teach everyone the concept of one plus one is two. Those that master it move on. Those who do not go to another teacher for another approach until they do master it before moving on. Do that with everything you teach and some kids will graduate in eight year, some in twelve years, and some in even longer periods of time. It will cost Xdollars to educate some, 1.5Xdollars to educate others and 3X dollars to educate some.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    The option for REALLY making a difference wasn't listed, namely, improving the raw material going in to the schools. Ever since Paul Erlich/the Zpg movement/ the women's rights movement and voluntarily reduced fertility levels, the very people who tend to have the highest educational level, themselves, tend to produce the fewest children, and those with the lowest educational levels the most. Reversing this trend, while not a realistic expectation, would do the most towards improving schooling.

    When children come from situations where education isn't valued, they don't value it, and when so many of the more intelligent potential parents take themselves out of the gene pool, then the school systems are limited to those who have more children.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Lots of things are needed to improve our education system. Parent involvement is of course a good one like Cephus says. But more than that is needed.

    Teacher incentives such as basing thier pay on their students average GPA would be helpful. For example if the average GPA of a teachers whole class is 2.0 then that teacher should probably not even be allowed to teach. But if the average GPA of the class is 4.0 then that teacher should be making more than the average teacher.

    Stricter rules when it comes to students. Right now the high school in my area does not enforce school attendence. Things like that need to change. Also enforcement of rules is a must.

    Instead of just punishing kids for when they do bad we need to zero in on why they are doing bad and address the problem.

    More emphasis on scholastics - less emphasis on sports. While sports are needed no one should get a sports grant. Such things only promote the old style of making the nerds do the jocks homework or cheating, or both.

    Less union involvment. Unions are largely useless for what they were originally intended for in today's world. Now adays they're nothing more than a bunch of thugs that imo is part of the reason that companies are going overseas.

    Less time off for frivolous holidays. Such as MLK day. Yes the guy was great. No denying that. But I'm pretty sure that MLK would be disgusted with kids today demanding to have a school day off to "supposedly" celebrate his achievements. Every kid knows that is just bunk and they just want to not go to school.

    No more days off for "teacher inhouse day" or whatever the hell it is called now adays. In my day they use to just call it teacher meetings. If the teachers need to learn something new due to policy changes then they would do that on the weekends or over the summer...not in the middle of the week.

    Smaller classes would help as the teachers are able to devote more time to individual students. There's a reason that the Sylvan Learning Center helps kids so much...and it's not because they have huge classes.

    There are of course other things but this would be a good start.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Charter schools, what are they, why do they seem to do so well?
    We need far, far greater parental involvement, particularly in schools that are not doing well.
    We need, air conditioned schools, and smaller ones.
    The costs may well increase.
    We need to hear and listen to our youth.
    They have the answers, if only we could change our attitudes.
    School should be open 12 months out of the year.
    There is probably much we can learn from Europe and Asia, even the Islamic nations(maybe??).
    Our fed. gov. education department should coordinate learning efforts between states, that should be their purpose.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There are lots of proposals for education reform in the US, not all of which can work together. What do you think are the most important things that can be done to improve education?
    Nothing will change for the better if they lie, falsify reports and fudge the truth to make themselves look like they're doing good when they're not.

    They need to hold students accountable.
    They need to hold parents accountable.
    They need to hold teachers accountable.

    If we can take care of some of these serious flaws then perhaps we can get a better picture of what's wrong with the system.

    Oh - and schools should stop receiving financial perks based on the % of poor-children attend. And teachers need to go back to the basics - you don't need expensive equipment and fancy nik naks to do a better job at teaching.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The option for REALLY making a difference wasn't listed, namely, improving the raw material going in to the schools. Ever since Paul Erlich/the Zpg movement/ the women's rights movement and voluntarily reduced fertility levels, the very people who tend to have the highest educational level, themselves, tend to produce the fewest children, and those with the lowest educational levels the most. Reversing this trend, while not a realistic expectation, would do the most toward improving schooling.

    When children come from situations where education isn't valued, they don't value it, and when so many of the more intelligent potential parents take themselves out of the gene pool, then the school systems are limited to those who have more children.
    But how in the world are you going to do that?
    Talk the poor and the ignorant into having fewer children....
    And convince the selfish and greedy into having more.....
    This is something to cause both the Republican and Democrats "think tanks" to work overtime...

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    But how in the world are you going to do that?
    Talk the poor and the ignorant into having fewer children....
    And convince the selfish and greedy into having more.....
    This is something to cause both the Republican and Democrats "think tanks" to work overtime...
    Yeah, the moment you figure that out, mate, let India know, they've been struggling with it for about two thousand years.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The option for REALLY making a difference wasn't listed, namely, improving the raw material going in to the schools. Ever since Paul Erlich/the Zpg movement/ the women's rights movement and voluntarily reduced fertility levels, the very people who tend to have the highest educational level, themselves, tend to produce the fewest children, and those with the lowest educational levels the most. Reversing this trend, while not a realistic expectation, would do the most towards improving schooling.

    When children come from situations where education isn't valued, they don't value it, and when so many of the more intelligent potential parents take themselves out of the gene pool, then the school systems are limited to those who have more children.
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