View Poll Results: Which of these things would improve education in the US?

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  • Longer school days

    14 16.47%
  • Longer school years

    31 36.47%
  • Better pay for teachers

    29 34.12%
  • More charter schools

    27 31.76%
  • More public vouchers for private schools

    34 40.00%
  • Weakening teachers' unions

    42 49.41%
  • More funding

    31 36.47%
  • Reallocation of funding (e.g. on a state level instead of on a district level)

    27 31.76%
  • Firing teachers who fail to perform to the standards the school board expects

    50 58.82%
  • More online education, replacing some brick-and-mortar schools

    17 20.00%
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    *Better discipline, possibly corporal punishment
    *Expansion of online learning
    *Teaching incentives
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    I have a few reforms not listed.

    1) Student Rewards
    Cut 5% from each aspect of the public school budget nationwide. Then use that money to set up a fund to pay school kids for getting good grades. That will give kids the initiative to earn good grades.

    2) Reform School Districts
    Instead of having school policy decided by district school boards, have laws done on a county level and policies done by individual schools. Each school will have a Board of Directors. Each board will be made up of equal parts A) juniors or seniors from that school, B) parents of children who go to that school, C) teachers employed at that school, D) administrators. That way, individual schools will be better able to make policies that suit their needs, and therefore the needs of their own students and teachers, rather than every school in a district be dictated to by politicians who may not even have a student currently enrolled or had never been an educator.

    3) Have Teacher Guilds
    Instead of having teacher unions instead form teacher guilds that provide basic minimum standards for public school teachers for their contracts and working conditions, and let teacher unions be done on a local basis. This way, school teachers can have reasonable minimum standards but won't be forced into being unionized. The guild can demand basic contract minimums, but the schools can provide it's own incentives to bring in teachers.

    4) Educate Students To Their Strengths
    Schools expect students to be the best at every subject. However, most children, and even better, are better at certain subjects than others. Because of that, we should have some kind of grading system that reflects that. For instance, one child may get Bs and Cs in all subjects, and so is average all around; however, a different child may get As in math and sciences but Cs and Ds in social sciences and literature. Such a child may get criticized for making poorer grades in the latter subjects; however, he makes excellent grades in the former subjects. And if you average the two groups, then he's an average student. So instead of expecting children to be good at everything, which may be too much, we should forgive children who are bad at certain subjects as long as they excel at other subjects.

    5) Have Students Do Things
    Not every student learns by sitting in a desk and listening to a teacher talk. So schools should have more exercises in which they actually do things. Instead of talking about geometry, let them carve out geometric shapes. Instead of talking about the science of plant life, let them also grow a small garden. Get kids involved and actually do stuff. They will then find those subjects much more interesting if they are, and it also gives them practical experience with regards to those subjects.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    You should see the performance of home school coops in Texas. Few of the parents have teaching certificates, yet their kids out perform all other schools. Why? Parents are heavily involved, the classes are small and everyone is accountable. That's why I would trend away from the large, prison like schools, and towards very small schools with less than 20 students per grade. It works. It works very well.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Public schools are very successful in their primary objective which is to provide secure and well paying jobs for adults. Hooray for the adults.

    Public schools have failed huge numbers of students by graduating them without basic survival skills. Not to mention the dropouts. Too bad for the kids.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    But how in the world are you going to do that?
    Talk the poor and the ignorant into having fewer children....
    And convince the selfish and greedy into having more.....
    This is something to cause both the Republican and Democrats "think tanks" to work overtime...
    You might have missed the words "while not a realistic expectation".
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You've watched Idiocracy recently, haven't you.

    Don't worry - we won't fall apart that far.

    No, I have never seen it. Your mentioning it reminds me that I have heard the name, but I know nothing about it.

    My own opinions have more to do with observation and reading metahistorians like Spengler and Toynbee than anything else.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Public schools are very successful in their primary objective which is to provide secure and well paying jobs for adults. Hooray for the adults.

    Public schools have failed huge numbers of students by graduating them without basic survival skills. Not to mention the dropouts. Too bad for the kids.

    From what I can tell graduation rates for high school students is 70.06 % nation wide. Now in my book that would be a passing grade. Just barely but it still passes.

    http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser...=graph&state=0

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    No, I have never seen it. Your mentioning it reminds me that I have heard the name, but I know nothing about it.

    My own opinions have more to do with observation and reading metahistorians like Spengler and Toynbee than anything else.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Make them all eat at least 10 ounces of this every day.
    Education.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    From what I can tell graduation rates for high school students is 70.06 % nation wide. Now in my book that would be a passing grade. Just barely but it still passes.

    HigherEdInfo.org: Public High School Graduation Rates
    That's a recipe for a second rate America.

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