View Poll Results: Which of these things would improve education in the US?

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  • Longer school days

    14 16.47%
  • Longer school years

    31 36.47%
  • Better pay for teachers

    29 34.12%
  • More charter schools

    27 31.76%
  • More public vouchers for private schools

    34 40.00%
  • Weakening teachers' unions

    42 49.41%
  • More funding

    31 36.47%
  • Reallocation of funding (e.g. on a state level instead of on a district level)

    27 31.76%
  • Firing teachers who fail to perform to the standards the school board expects

    50 58.82%
  • More online education, replacing some brick-and-mortar schools

    17 20.00%
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly, but how do you measure that on a standardized test?

    Our test driven curriculum is a large part of the problem.
    You can't. Thats the problem, short sighted people who think tests mean more than they mean.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Greater funding did not receive much of an effect, if any at all (much to the confusion or outright frustration of researchers), school choice likewise makes sense, but again, has mixed if not little results. Increased pay for teachers helps the profession seem attractive, but has it produced remarkable results on student output? I do not recall so....

    Perhaps some things can be slightly improved or greatly improved in one area or another through one or more means of reform, but I am reluctant to believe we know with exacting detail what will work for the greatest number of citizens. I think it was Peter Rossi who said something to the effect of... the better the test, there is an increase for the likelihood that the effects are zero.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Longer days and longer years? How about we stop putting so damn much on kids backs and let em be kids. I would like to see shorter days and years.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You can't. Thats the problem, short sighted people who think tests mean more than they mean.
    That is true. And it is compounded by the fact that these tests do not measure what it both taught and learned in the classroom. Often, there is no relationship between the curriculum in the classroom and the material on the standardized test. A nation such as Japan, which has very high test scores, has one national curriculum which dovetails perfectly with the standardized test. So when do we adopt that?
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I think the foremost thing that could improve the education system would be investment. I graduated 3 years ago, and I think the only computers my school had were mac's in the library. In todays world, there are millions of careers out their that primarily use computers. Even if you don't use one, that is how you can get your foot in the door. Most office jobs like interns work exclusively on a computer until they can move farther up in the company. Public schools are behind when it comes to teaching students new technologies. Also, I think there should be more investment in things like the school library,textbooks, and other important materials.
    Total bull****! We don't need you ****ing around on facebook all day long not doing your work. We spend millions on computerizing schools. No more money for education!
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    My biggest gripe with education right now is the method honestly. Its became wholey a system of memorization and mimicry rather than teaching kids HOW to learn. The ability to grasp the benefits of hard work, reason, and how to understand things are more important than any individual fact you end up learning in school. With the more and more schools have been slaves to a singular cirriculum that determines how good or bad they're rated, the more and more we shift from teaching people how to THINK and more teaching them how to memorize. To me, that's a problem.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There are lots of proposals for education reform in the US, not all of which can work together. What do you think are the most important things that can be done to improve education?
    hold parents responsible for the ****ty performance of their kids. If mommy and daddy don't think education is important and make little johnny and suzy do their homework and pay attention, the best schools in the world won't help.
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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    yes, which they then shoot at our "failed government schools", the evil teacher's unions, the need for more "prayer in schools" and other absurd targets.

    There is a (hopefully small) percentage of the population that would gladly do away with public education and substitute it with private schools they could use to indoctrinate children in their way of thinking. Ammunition is very important to them.
    Quite true. Sadly.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Teacher pay needs to be increased so that intelligent people will take the jobs. No one who possesses the proper intellect and talent would work for a teachers salary when they can make much more money in other sectors and careers.

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    Re: Which of these things would improve education in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My biggest gripe with education right now is the method honestly. Its became wholey a system of memorization and mimicry rather than teaching kids HOW to learn. The ability to grasp the benefits of hard work, reason, and how to understand things are more important than any individual fact you end up learning in school. With the more and more schools have been slaves to a singular cirriculum that determines how good or bad they're rated, the more and more we shift from teaching people how to THINK and more teaching them how to memorize. To me, that's a problem.
    That's a problem, I agree, but one that is being addressed. I'm not sure just what the state standards for education are where you are, but in California they include such things as determining the main idea of a paragraph, separating fact from opinion, supporting opinion with fact, and recognizing cause and effect, all grouped under the bureaucratic phrase "critical thinking skills".
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